Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

May 13, 2009

Correspondence with a Zionist

Filed under: Academia,Jewish question,middle east — louisproyect @ 3:46 pm


Dr. Edward S. Beck: I get underneath his skin

Yes, I admit it. I am a crank. When I read something on the Internet that irks me particularly, I make an attempt to track down the email address of the author and give him a piece of my mind. The goal is not so much to have a dialog but to prevent my head from exploding like in one of those Monty Python cartoons.

Yesterday I spotted an item in Inside Higher Education about the free speech struggle taking place at UC Santa Barbara that described the role of one of those pro-Israel groups that are poisoning the atmosphere at college campuses everywhere:

Meanwhile, Scholars for Peace in the Middle East, a group that has criticized some of the anti-Israeli rhetoric on American campuses, issued a statement backing the inquiry into Robinson. “An important issue is the distinction between legitimate criticism of policies and practices of the State of Israel, and commentary that assumes an anti-Semitic character. The demonization of Israel, or vilification of Israeli leaders, sometimes through Comparisons with Nazi leaders, and through the use of Nazi symbols to caricature them, indicates an anti-Semitic bias rather than a valid criticism of policy concerning a controversial issue,” the statement says. “Contrary to what a number of academics who should know better have asserted, academic freedom does not mean that material that is introduced to a curriculum, class, or academic forum should be protected from collegial and peer review and discussion, conducted in a civil and constructive manner. Where peers find scholarship or pedagogy to be substandard, they are entitled, indeed obligated, to say so.”

So of course the first thing I did was google “Scholars for Peace in the Middle East” and track down the website, and more importantly, the board members to see if I could find an email address to launch a torpedo or two against. Usually, the recipients ignore me understanding full well that I don’t have both oars in the water, especially when it comes to Israel, but this time I managed to get under the skin of Edward S. Beck the Co-Founder and President- Emeritus, USA. You can write him yourself at ScholarsforPeace@aol.com

An article that appeared in the November 10th 2005 Cleveland Jewish News gives some background on Beck:

“There is an academic battleground on campus,” warned Dr. Edward Beck, a psychology professor and Israel activist.

But he adds that the fight between pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel groups and their pro-Israel opponents is one-sided.

At universities like Columbia in New York City and DePaul in Chicago, professors have been let go or denied tenure for espousing pro-Israel or Zionist viewpoints. Theories put forth by Noam Chomksy and others calling Israel a colonial power have captivated academicians.

“We have to take the offensive. We have to initiate,” said Beck, who spoke Nov. 9 at the Jewish Community Center at a talk sponsored by the Alvin, Lottie and Rachel Gray Center for Jewish Life and Learning.

So the correspondence kicked off with me writing Beck with “Correction” in the subject heading:

You are not for peace. You are for ethnic cleansing and murder.

Yours truly,

Louis Proyect (a bar mitzvahed Jew)


Beck responded:

You certainly are entitled to your opinion and you are certainly entitled to be dead wrong. I am not sure what we could say to convince you we are for peace and justice. As the son of Holocaust survivors and a member of the healing arts profession, I very much resent your accusation that the organization I founded and head is for ethnic cleansing and murder. That would be a slanderous misrepresentation. When you are more open minded and less accusatory, perhaps we can discuss some things. However if you are going to maintain this position without substantive and evidence, it is clear you are bound up in your own prejudice with ad hominems and name calling.

Have a love Lag BeOmer… [LP: This is a Jewish holiday connected to Passover, the grizzly myth about Yahweh spilling the blood of Egyptian children to pressure Yul Brynner to free the Jews.]



I wrote back:

Wake up. Israel is not perceived the way it was in the 1950s when my mother was president of Hadassah in her Catskill Mountains village. Its foreign minister has been openly promoting “population transfer” of the kind that the Turks used against Armenians and Andrew Jackson used against the Cherokees.

And stop using the holocaust as an excuse to promote ethnic cleansing.

It is quite frankly disgusting.


Beck responded:

This is not a discussion. You clearly have issues and quite frankly your tone is abusive.

Work out your own issue with you mother, not me.

Good luck


I wrote back:

According to a study funded by the American Jewish Congress, 44 percent of young American Jews would not feel sorry if Israel disappeared as a state. With your clumsy intervention into schools like UCSB, where young progressive Jews study, that number can only increase. For that I thank you.


Beck responded:

And you talk about genocide and murder and not being for peace and you don’t care if Israel fell off the earth.

Study your history, learn about Jews before Israel even about life in America with quotas etc here and you will learn that life has gotten good for Jews in America since the establishment of the state of Israel.

Again, your tone is abusive and lacks any integrity. Come to me when you know something, not when you think you know everything.

Good luck.


I wrote back:

> And you talk about genocide and murder and not being for peace and you
> don’t care if Israel fell off the earth.

Oh please. Israel will not fall off the earth if its racist basis was terminated. South Africa did not disappear when apartheid ended. Algeria did not disappear when the FLN came to power. My position is identical to that of the American Council for Judaism in 1942-1948, which is discussed in Thomas Kolsky’s “Jews Against Zionism”. For years, that position has been a distinct minority among American Jews but thanks to the brutality and the racism of people like Netanyahu and Lieberman, it will be making a comeback. If you think that the “Sixty Minutes” segment comparing Israel to South Africa was bad, you have seen nothing yet. If you want people to stop comparing Israel to fascists, then stop acting like fascists.

> Study your history, learn about Jews before Israel even about life in
> America with quotas etc here and you will learn that life has gotten
> good for Jews in America since the establishment of the state of Israel.

I don’t care if life is “good” for Jews if it is bad for the people it victimizes. Israel trained and armed the Guatemalan army in the 1980s, which has the blood of poor Indian peasants on its hands. Disgusting.

> Again, your tone is abusive and lacks any integrity. Come to me when
> you know something, not when you think you know everything.
> Good luck.

I actually know quite a bit. I have read Heinrich Graetz’s history of the Jews and, more to the point, was a Zionist in the early 1960s. It was Israeli barbarism that turned me into an anti-Zionist.


Beck responded:

OK, so you’re a Jewish anti-Zionist with a poisonous attitude and a big mouth. It is your vitriol that is poisoning the waters, not SPME’s. [Scholars for Peace in the Middle East] I think this conversation is pretty much over.



My final reply:

I have not uttered a word of vitriol. Anyhow, good luck trying to get American Jews to tolerate the sort of thing that comes out the mouth of Israel’s foreign minister:

“The vision I would like to see here is the entrenching of the Jewish and the Zionist state. I very much favor democracy, but when there is a contradiction between democratic and Jewish values, the Jewish and Zionist values are more important.”


  1. “I have read Heinrich Graetz’s history of the Jews . . . ”

    All six volumes? Is it still worth reading?

    I would have asked Prof. Beck exactly who has been fired or denied tenure for pro-Israeli (sic) views.

    Comment by Max B. Sawicky — May 13, 2009 @ 5:12 pm

  2. The good Dr. Beck came out to my campus, SUNY Buffalo, in response to a hysterical flurry after Norman Finkelstein gave a talk here. A campus chapter of SPME formed, but it has been largely dormant. Beck likes to talk about how scholarly his organization is, how he wants to hold genuinely academic conferences, etc., but he’s not exactly a riveting intellectual presence himself, and the evidence of anything like scholarship has been pretty thin. The SPME website reveals the usual hasbara and a truly soporific stable of speakers-for-hire, but little more. The youthful Zionist vigor and organizational brilliance that contributed to the ethnic cleansing of Palestine is thankfully fading fast. A change is gonna come.

    Comment by Jim Holstun — May 13, 2009 @ 7:53 pm

  3. Har! Why do you do it, Lou? Anyway, I’m glad you got under this idiot’s skin.

    Comment by John B. — May 13, 2009 @ 8:58 pm

  4. Correction?

    Wonderful correspondence but I might have a correction. When I was at Hebrew classes (aka cheder) they told us that you do not get bar mitzvahed, you get or are bar mitzvah. It’s a current thing, not a past thing.

    But as I said, wonderful correspondence. Keep up the good work!


    Comment by Levi9909 — May 14, 2009 @ 9:03 am

  5. Checking out the website of the American Council for Judaism (http://www.acjna.org), I don’t think their views concerning Zionism have changed all that much over the years.

    Concerning your exchange with Prof. Beck, you technique reminds me very much of the one that the late Jerry Williams used back in his prime as a top radio talk host in Boston. When he would get a caller who was very conservative, Jerry would attempt to get under his skin in very much the same manner you used with the professor. More often that not, Jerry Williams would provoke the caller into uttering some sort of a racist or bigoted tirade. In other words, he would get the caller to hang himself with his own rope.

    Comment by Jim Farmelant — May 14, 2009 @ 11:27 am

  6. I never thought I’d agree with you about anything political.

    On this one, I do. Which one of us should be worried?

    Comment by Grumpy Old Man — May 15, 2009 @ 4:27 am

  7. Here’s a relevant article from the June 2, 2009 CounterPunch website written by a Jew living in Israel:

    A Fascist Odor of the New Coalition
    Racists for Democracy

    How lucky we are to have the extreme Right standing guard over our democracy.

    This week, the Knesset voted by a large majority (47 to 34) for a law that threatens imprisonment for anyone who dares to deny that Israel is a Jewish and Democratic State.

    The private member’s bill, proposed by MK Zevulun Orlev of the “Jewish Home” party, which sailed through its preliminary hearing, promises one year in prison to anyone who publishes “a call that negates the existence of the State of Israel as a Jewish and Democratic State”, if the contents of the call might cause “actions of hate, contempt or disloyalty against the state or the institutions of government or the courts”.

    One can foresee the next steps. A million and a half Arab citizens cannot be expected to recognize Israel as a Jewish and Democratic State. They want it to be “a state of all its citizens” – Jews, Arabs and others. They also claim with reason that Israel discriminates against them, and therefore is not really democratic. And, in addition, there are also Jews who do not want Israel to be defined as a Jewish State in which non-Jews have the status, at best, of tolerated outsiders.

    The consequences are inevitable. The prisons will not be able to hold all those convicted of this crime. There will be a need for concentration camps all over the country to house all the deniers of Israeli democracy.

    The police will be unable to deal with so many criminals. It will be necessary to set up a new unit. This may be called “Special Security”, or, in short, SS.

    Hopefully, these measures will suffice to preserve our democracy. If not, more stringent steps will have to be taken, such as revoking the citizenship of the democracy-deniers and deporting them from the country, together with the Jewish leftists and all the other enemies of the Jewish democracy.

    After the preliminary reading of the bill, it now goes to the Legal Committee of the Knesset, which will prepare it for the first, and soon thereafter for the second and third readings. Within a few weeks or months, it will be the law of the land.

    By the way, the bill does not single out Arabs explicitly – even if this is its clear intention, and all those who voted for it understood this. It also prohibits Jews from advocating a change in the state’s definition, or the creation of a bi-national state in all of historic Palestine or spreading any other such unconventional ideas. One can only imagine what would happen in the US if a senator proposed a law to imprison anyone who suggests an amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

    * * *

    THE BILL does not stand out at all in our new political landscape.

    This government has already adopted a bill to imprison for three years anyone who mourns the Palestinian Naqba – the 1948 uprooting of more than half the Palestinian people from their homes and lands.

    The sponsors expect Arab citizens to be happy about that event. True, the Palestinians were caused a certain unpleasantness, but that was only a by-product of the foundation of our state. The Independence Day of the Jewish and Democratic State must fill us all with joy. Anyone who does not express this joy should be locked up, and three years may not be enough.

    This bill has been confirmed by the Ministerial Commission for Legal Matters, prior to being submitted to the Knesset. Since the rightist government commands a majority in the Knesset, it will be adopted almost automatically. (In the meantime, a slight delay has been caused by one minister, who appealed the decision, so the Ministerial Commission will have to confirm it again.)

    The sponsors of the law hope, perhaps, that on Naqba Day the Arabs will dance in the streets, plant Israeli flags on the ruins of some 600 Arab villages that were wiped off the map and offer up their thanks to Allah in the mosques for the miraculous good fortune that was bestowed on them.

    * * *

    THIS TAKES me back to the 60s, when the weekly magazine I edited, Haolam Hazeh, published an Arabic edition. One of its employees was a young man called Rashed Hussein from the village of Musmus. Already as a youth he was a gifted poet with a promising future.

    He told me that some years earlier the military governor of his area had summoned him to his office. At the time, all the Arabs in Israel were subject to a military government which controlled their lives in all matters big and small. Without a permit, an Arab citizen could not leave his village or town even for a few hours, nor get a job as a teacher, nor acquire a tractor or dig a well.

    The governor received Rashed cordially, offered him coffee and paid lavish compliments to his poetry. Then he came to the point: in a month’s time, Independence Day was due, and the governor was going to hold a big reception for the Arab “notables”; he asked Rashed to write a special poem for the occasion.

    Rashed was a proud youngster, nationalist to the core, and not lacking in courage. He explained to the governor that Independence Day was no joyful day for him, since his relatives had been driven from their homes and most of the Musmus village’s land had also been expropriated.

    When Rashed arrived back at his village some hours later, he could not help noticing that his neighbors were looking at him in a peculiar way. When he entered his home, he was shocked. All the members of his family were sitting on the floor, the women lamenting at the top of their voices, the children huddling fearfully in a corner. His first thought was that somebody had died.

    “What have you done to us!” one of the women cried, “What did we do to you?”

    “You have destroyed the family,” another shouted, “You have finished us!”

    It appeared that the governor had called the family and told them that Rashed had refused to fulfill his duty to the state. The threat was clear: from now on, the extended family, one of the largest in the village, would be on the black list of the military government. The consequences were clear to everyone.

    Rashed could not stand up against the lamentation of his family. He gave in and wrote the poem, as requested. But something inside him was broken. Some years later he emigrated to the US, got a job there at the PLO office and died tragically: he was burned alive in his bed after going to sleep, it appears, while smoking a cigarette.

    * * *

    THESE DAYS are gone forever. We took part in many stormy demonstrations against the military government until it was finally abolished in 1966. As a newly elected Member of Parliament, I had the privilege of voting for its abolition.

    The fearful and subservient Arab minority, then amounting to some 200 thousand souls, has recovered its self-esteem. A second and third generation has grown up, its downtrodden national pride has raised its head again, and today they are a large and self-confident community of 1.5 million. But the attitude of the Jewish Right has not changed for the better. On the contrary.

    In the Knesset bakery (the Hebrew word for bakery is Mafia) some new pastries are being baked. One of them is a bill that stipulates that anyone applying for Israeli citizenship must declare their loyalty to “the Jewish, Zionist and Democratic State”, and also undertake to serve in the army or its civilian alternative. Its sponsor is MK David Rotem of the “Israel is Our Home” party, who also happens to be the chairman of the Knesset Law Committee.

    A declaration of loyalty to the state and its laws – a framework designed to safeguard the wellbeing and the rights of its citizens – is reasonable. But loyalty to the “Zionist” state? Zionism is an ideology, and in a democratic state the ideology can change from time to time. It would be like declaring loyalty to a “capitalist” USA, a “rightist Italy”, a ”leftist” Spain, a “Catholic Poland” or a “nationalist” Russia.

    This would not be a problem for the tens of thousands of Orthodox Jews in Israel who reject Zionism, since Jews will not be touched by this law. They obtain citizenship automatically the moment they arrive in Israel.

    Another bill waiting for its turn before the Ministerial Committee proposes changing the declaration that every new Knesset Member has to make before assuming office. Instead of loyalty “to the State of Israel and its laws”, as now, he or she will be required to declare their loyalty “to the Jewish, Zionist and Democratic State of Israel, its symbols and its values”. That would exclude almost automatically all the elected Arabs, since declaring loyalty to the “Zionist” state would mean that no Arab would ever vote for them again.

    It would also be a problem for the Orthodox members of the Knesset, who cannot declare loyalty to Zionism. According to Orthodox doctrine, the Zionists are depraved sinners and the Zionist flag is unclean. God exiled the Jews from this country because of their wickedness, and only God can permit them to return. Zionism, by preempting the job of the Messiah, has committed an unpardonable sin, and many Orthodox Rabbis chose to remain in Europe and be murdered by the Nazis rather than committing the Zionist sin of going to Palestine.

    * * *

    THE FACTORY of racist laws with a distinct fascist odor is now working at full steam. That is built into the new coalition.

    At its center is the Likud party, a good part of which is pure racist (sorry for the oxymoron). To its right there is the ultra-racist Shas party, to the right of which is Lieberman’s ultra-ultra racist “Israel is our Home” party, the ultra-ultra-ultra racist “Jewish Home” party, and to its right the even more racist “National Union” party, which includes outright Kahanists and stands with one foot in the coalition and the other on the moon.

    All these factions are trying to outdo each other. When one proposes a crazy bill, the next is compelled to propose an even crazier one, and so on.

    All this is possible because Israel has no constitution. The ability of the Supreme Court to annul laws that contradict the “basic laws” is not anchored anywhere, and the Rightist parties are trying to abolish it. Not for nothing did Avigdor Lieberman demand – and get – the Justice and Police ministries.

    Just now, when the governments of the US and Israel are clearly on a collision course over the settlements, this racist fever may infect all parts of the coalition.

    If one goes to sleep with a dog, one should not be surprised to wake up with fleas (may the dogs among my readers pardon me). Those who elected such a government, and even more so those who joined it, should not be surprised by its laws, which ostensibly safeguard Jewish democracy.

    The most appropriate name for these holy warriors would be “Racists for Democracy”.

    Uri Avnery is an Israeli writer and peace activist with Gush Shalom. He is a contributor to CounterPunch’s book The Politics of Anti-Semitism.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — June 2, 2009 @ 9:05 pm

  8. “(…) Its foreign minister has been openly promoting “population transfer” of the kind that the Turks used against Armenians and Andrew Jackson used against the Cherokees.
    And stop using the holocaust as an excuse to promote ethnic cleansing.
    It is quite frankly disgusting.”

    Hm, and Milosevic during Bosnian ethnic cleansing and genocide in first years of 90’s, and Kosovo ethnic cleansing during last years of the same decade !
    Not that I’m surprised with your omission of the Balkan Butcher.

    Otherwise, you are absolutely right about SPME !

    Comment by Santa — January 29, 2015 @ 3:52 pm

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