In a massive (15,308 words) article that appears in the current New Left Review, Perry Anderson addresses “Two Revolutions”, namely the Russian and the Chinese. My expectations were that Anderson would be interesting as well as wrong. He did not disappoint.
Mostly the article can be reduced to a kind of laboratory experiment where one rat is compared to another. The rat that has been fed a constant diet of Big Macs will look sickly while the one that eats wheat germ and yogurt will look great. That, in a nutshell, is how Anderson approaches Russia and China. China’s success story, we are told, has a lot to do with “communism”, a term that Anderson deploys much more in the terms of bourgeois social science than Marxism. This is to be expected from somebody who announced to the world in 2000 in a NLR article titled “Renewals” that:
By contrast, commanding the field of direct political constructions of the time, the Right has provided one fluent vision of where the world is going, or has stopped, after another—Fukuyama, Brzezinski, Huntington, Yergin, Luttwak, Friedman. These are writers that unite a single powerful thesis with a fluent popular style, designed not for an academic readership but a broad international public. This confident genre, of which America has so far a virtual monopoly, finds no equivalent on the Left.
Little did Anderson suspect that only a few years later Fukuyama would do a 180 degrees turn and disavow his “end of history” thesis under the impact of an imploding financial system. That being said, he still seems smitten by the prospects of being “fluent” and “powerful”. I for one place much more importance on being truthful and revolutionary.
Setting the tone for the rest of the article, Anderson invokes the authority of Max Weber in distinguishing between the healthy and the sick lab rats.
More than just the wholly different temporality of this experience separated it from the overturn in Russia. The way in which power was won was altogether distinct. If the state is defined, in Weber’s famous formula, by the exercise of a monopoly of legitimate violence over a given territory, a revolution always involves a breaking of that monopoly, and the emergence of what Lenin and Trotsky called a dual power. Logically, there are three ways in which this can arise, corresponding to the three terms of Weber’s formula. A revolution can break the monopoly of the state’s power by destroying the legitimacy of its rule, so that coercion cannot be exercised to repress the movement against it. The Iranian Revolution, in which there was no fighting, the royal army remaining paralysed as the monarchy fell, would be an example. Alternatively, a revolution can pit an insurgent violence against the coercive apparatus of the state, overwhelming it in a quick knock-out blow, without having secured any general legitimacy. This was the Russian pattern, possible only against a weak opponent.
I don’t quite know what to make of all this except to say that I find Karl Marx’s definition of the state much more useful since it is put forward in class terms. In the formula above, that criterion is entirely missing.
Using the Weberian yardstick, Anderson finds the essential difference between Russia and China to revolve around the ability of the state to mobilize the power of the masses in achieving its goals in the fashion of a quarterback relying on his linemen. We are led to understand that the Chinese had a much better team, something that was afforded to a large part by particular historical circumstances as Anderson explains:
The victory of the PLA, far from leaving economy and society ravaged, delivered recovery and stability. Inflation was mastered; corruption banished; supplies resumed. In the countryside, landlordism was abolished. In the cities, no sweeping expropriation was needed, since over two-thirds of industry was already state-owned under the GMD [Nationalists], and comprador capital had fled to Hong Kong or Taiwan. The middle class was so alienated by the last years of Nationalist rule that much of it greeted the arrival of Communism with relief rather than resistance; as production revived, workers returned to normal employment and received wages again. The People’s Republic, embodying patriotic ideals and social discipline, entered life enjoying a degree of popular assent that the Soviet Union never knew.
After a while it becomes clear that Anderson’s main interest is in establishing how successful Russia and China were in accomplishing a set of goals usually associated with development economics and modernization, the very stuff of graduate school seminars using the texts of Max Weber, Walt Rostow and Theda Skocpol for reading assignments. By this criterion, progress is measured less in terms of social equality than it is in GDP. Anderson writes that Russia had a more auspicious beginning:
Of the two states as they crossed the threshold of reform, the USSR enjoyed to all appearances much the better conditions, material and cultural, for success. Its GDP was four to five times higher than that of China. Its industrial base was far larger, employing over twice the relative labour force. It was richer in nearly every natural resource—fossil fuels, valuable minerals, abundant land. It was much more urbanized. Its population was better fed, with an average intake of calories half as much again as in China.
But China would eventually leapfrog Russia largely because it could rely on much better “grunts”, the sort of social muscle that could put the football over the goal-line:
Socially, too, China had one huge, critical advantage over the USSR. The peasantry was not a listless, sullen rump of the class it had once been, as in Russia. It was neither tired nor disaffected, but full of potential energy, waiting to be released, as events would show. Historically, it had never possessed collective institutions comparable to the MIR. Rural society, long atomized in the North and shaken loose by the Taiping upheaval in the South, could recover after the Great Leap Forward with centuries of market impulses behind it. The absence of deep agrarian alienation was not, moreover, simply a difference between the two countrysides. Making up the overwhelming majority of the population, the Chinese peasantry was the central pediment of the nation. Its nearest equivalent in the USSR, even if not so proportionately large a part of society, would have been the industrial working class. But it too, though not so demoralized as the kolkhozniki, was by the 80s thoroughly disabused as a social force, deeply cynical about the regime, inured to make-work and low productivity, in compensation for the vast gap between its nominal role as the leading class in the state and its actual position in the hierarchy of privilege.
But most of all, China could rely on its superior leadership, who by comparison to the Soviet leaders were virtual Bart Starrs:
Yet, at the gateway to their reforms, perhaps the most decisive of all the differences between Russia and China lay in the character of their political leadership. In command of the PRC was not an isolated, inexperienced functionary, surrounded by aides and publicists infused with a naive Schwärmerei for all that was Western, but battle-hardened veterans of the original Revolution, leaders who had been Mao’s colleagues, and had suffered under him, but had lost none of their strategic skills or self-confidence.
Well, it is always good to have strategic skill and self-confidence especially when it comes to selling real estate or corporate bonds but I wonder how much this has to do with “communism”. Once again, Anderson is demonstrating a keen interest in everything about Russia and China except what once distinguished him as a Marxist a lifetime ago: the interests of the working class. For Anderson, the term “Leninist” does not mean what it once did. It is not what made Fidel Castro an exceptional politician but the kind of gift that will help you climb the corporate ladder at a place like Microsoft:
In confronting the situation of the country as Mao had left it, this leadership, with Deng at its head, remained the revolutionaries they had always been. Their temper was Leninist: radical, disciplined, imaginative—capable at once of tactical patience and prudent experimentation, and of the boldest initiatives and most dramatic switches of direction.
Much of the rest of the article is devoted to breathless invocations to the special gifts of the Chinese rulers that can be found in Andre Gunder Frank’s “Reorient”, Martin Jacques’s latest book or in any of a dozen book-of-the-month club selections hailing the “Chinese century”:
The task of making good the lag between communism in China and capitalism in East Asia was a formidable agenda for any programme of reforms. But the Immortals were not daunted. They tackled it with a vigour born not just from the momentum, still active, of the Revolution they had made, but from a millennial self-confidence, battered for a century, but ultimately unbroken, of the oldest continuous civilization in the world. Mao’s dynamism, for better or worse, had been one expression of the recovery of that confidence. The Reform Era propelled by Deng would be another. In this historical self-assurance lay a fundamental difference between Russia and China.
Anderson seems to be as mesmerized by China as the editors of Monthly Review are by Iran. In neither country are workers permitted to challenge the bosses who invoke socialism or Islam in laying down the law. It is a sign of the times that these two august publications have succumbed to the siren call of the powerful state rather than the possibility of socialist transformation.
In Anderson’s 2000 article, he virtually washed his hands of the socialist project:
Ideologically, the novelty of the present situation stands out in historical view. It can be put like this. For the first time since the Reformation, there are no longer any significant oppositions—that is, systematic rival outlooks—within the thought-world of the West; and scarcely any on a world scale either, if we discount religious doctrines as largely inoperative archaisms, as the experiences of Poland or Iran indicate we may. Whatever limitations persist to its practice, neo-liberalism as a set of principles rules undivided across the globe: the most successful ideology in world history. What this means for a journal like NLR is a radical discontinuity in the culture of the Left, as it—or if it—renews itself generationally. Nowhere is the contrast with the originating context of the review sharper than in this respect. Virtually the entire horizon of reference in which the generation of the sixties grew up has been wiped away—the landmarks of reformist and revolutionary socialism in equal measure. For most students, the roster of Bebel, Bernstein, Luxemburg, Kautsky, Jaurès, Lukács, Lenin, Trotsky, Gramsci have become names as remote as a list of Arian bishops. How to reweave threads of significance between the last century and this would be one of the most delicate and difficult tasks before any journal that took the term ‘left’ seriously. There seem to be few guide-posts for it.
When Perry Anderson was in his twenties, he wrote two books that challenged exactly such moods that had turned an earlier generation of Marxists into pessimists. “Considerations on Western Marxism” and “In the Tracks of Historical Materialism” rebuked those who retreated into the academy and turned Marxism into the stuff of graduate seminars rather than the barricades.
The combined impact of a general retreat of the mass movement and his own donnish pursuits have led Perry Anderson into exactly what disgusted him as a young man. Some of us remain unrepentant Marxists while others find ways to become penitents. Of course, it would be a lot better if they simply dropped the pretensions to Marxism for the sake of clarity.
Back in March of 1999 Edward Sidelsky wrote a rather devastating profile of Perry Anderson in the New Statesman that is worth reproducing in its entirety. I will conclude on this sad note:
The New Statesman Profile – Perry Anderson; He is one of Britain’s great Marxist intellectuals, yet now he seems a strangely conservative figure.
By Edward Skidelsky
Perry Anderson exemplifies a type that has almost vanished: the unaffiliated intellectual. The leading British Trotskyite, he has never belonged to a political party. An eminent historian, he has never held a full-time post at a British university. His writing belongs to none of the various categories of academic literature; it attempts, at its most ambitious, to comprehend them all in a total synthesis. His thought owes allegiance to no national tradition; it belongs to the floating corpus of western Marxism. It is fitting, if ironic, that this revolutionary free-booter should finally settle at the University of California at Los Angeles. Repressive tolerance has triumphed over one of its fiercest adversaries. Anderson is notoriously elusive. No interviews, no broadcasts – and even the London School of Economics, where he is a visiting lecturer, did not have a photograph to contribute to the illustration of this profile. Yet for all his elusiveness, his influence on British intellectual life has been enormous. The conduit of this influence was the New Left Review, the socialist bi-monthly which he edited from 1962 to 1982. Anderson’s goal was the introduction into Britain of a new kind of socialist culture, alternative to both the official Marxism of the Communist Party and the stolid reformism of the Labour Party. His followers saw themselves as a revolutionary vanguard. Inspired by Gramsci, they aimed to establish a socialist hegemony in the realm of ideas from which, they hoped, a revolutionary movement would follow. The leading lights of Continental Marxism – Lucacs, Gramsci, Benjamin, Adorno, Marcuse and Althusser – were published and discussed, often for the first time in Britain. Non-Marxist structuralists such as Lacan and Levi-Strauss were also introduced. High theory was interspersed with the other amour of the era: Latin American terrorism.
Anderson’s cosmopolitanism is partly a product of biography. He was born in 1940 into a wealthy Anglo-Irish family; his father was an official in the Chinese Maritime Customs. Eton and the stuffy Oxford of the 1950s no doubt exacerbated Anderson’s distaste for ‘spiritual patriotism’. Marxism offered the alternative of a truly international ideology, and Trotskyism, with its tradition of ‘revolution in more than one country’, was the most internationalist variant of Marxism. Anderson cites, as precedent for his own attitude, ‘the scorn of Marx and Engels for German provinciality and philistinism, of Lenin and Trotsky for Russian religiosity and Oblomovism, of Gramsci for Italian operatics and sentimentalism’. The cosmopolitanism of Marxist theory was, one suspects, a stronger source of appeal for Anderson than its promise of social justice. His is a socialism of the head, not the heart.
The agenda of the New Left Review was set out by Anderson in a couple of fierce polemics: ‘Components of the National Culture’ (1968) and ‘Origins of the Present Crisis’ (1964). They are the most scintillating essays he has written. The mediocrity of postwar intellectual life in Britain is the subject of the former. Written with a young man’s scorn, the essay surveys and dismisses British contributions to history, philosophy, political theory, psychology and aesthetics. These local failings are the consequence of a more fundamental vacuum: the absence, at the centre of British intellectual life, of any general theory of society that might unify the disparate branches of inquiry. Sociology, in Anderson’s view, is the queen of the sciences. In its absence, intellectual life fragments; a process dignified by the English totems of ‘empiricism’ and ‘piecemeal research’. This failure is not innocent; nothing is innocent for a Marxist. The absence of social theory serves to perpetuate the bourgeois social order; that which cannot be conceived cannot, a fortiori, be attacked.
‘Origins of the Present Crisis’ was one of a series of articles by Anderson and Tom Nairn offering a historical explanation for the predicament analysed in ‘Components of the National Culture’. The failure of the English bourgeoisie to develop a coherent world-view was, they argued, a consequence of its failure to draw a clear line of opposition between itself and the aristocracy. The revolution of 1640 was aborted: the reform of 1832 half-hearted. A corrupt bargain was struck between nobility and capital, in which the former lent dignity to the latter in return for the preservation of its constitutional privileges. The timidity of the bourgeoisie in the face of the aristocracy was later paralleled by the timidity of the proletariat in face of the bourgeoisie. ‘A supine bourgeoisie produced a subordinate proletariat.’ The proletariat accepted from the bourgeoisie the ‘timid and dreary’ philosophy of Fabian gradualism. The result was ‘Labourism, most stolid and mundane of political movements’. This denigration of British history provoked a passionate reply from E P Thompson, a Marxist of very different lineage. Anderson responded, and their exchange is as interesting and as revealing as the better-remembered ‘Two Cultures’ debate between F R Leavis and C P Snow.
Anderson’s argument was put forward as an explanation not only of Britain’s cultural conservatism, but also of her relative economic decline. It addressed a widespread mood of the 1960s, in which anti-establishment attitudes were mingled with anxiety about falling growth. The image of the ‘clean break’ seemed to answer both problems at once. It quickly became part of the lexicon of Wilsonism; its echoes are still audible today in Blair’s rhetoric of ‘modernisation’.
The influence of the New Left Review increased steadily under Anderson’s editorship, its circulation rising from 2,000 to 8,000. Its impact was particularly strong in the new universities and polytechnics, where it contributed to the formation of that leviathan called critical theory. But as the New Left Review entered the 1980s, it became increasingly clear that the revolution it had initiated would not spread beyond the academy. And even there, its influence was confined to certain sub-disciplines in the humanities. All it had achieved, in fact, was the replacement of one kind of intellectual provincialism with another. It could hardly have been otherwise, given the collapse of socialist politics in this period.
The movement away from practical politics towards questions of culture and ideology is characteristic of western Marxism as a whole. The failure of Marx’s political and economic predictions left his disciples with only one remaining role – that of Kulturkritiker. As Anderson himself points out, ‘the hidden hallmark of western Marxism . . . is that it is the product of defeat’. His attitude towards it is ambivalent. Admiring its sophistication, he reproaches it with ‘culturalism’ and contrasts it unfavourably with the classical tradition of Trotsky. Even Gramsci, the most politically minded of the great western Marxists, is accused of shifting the burden of revolutionary struggle on to the cultural sphere and neglecting the mechanics of state power.
Anderson is too intelligent and honest to deny the intellectual and political triumph of the right in the past decade, and yet he has never formally renounced his revolutionary convictions. They have just sunk quietly into the background, becoming a kind of coda to what is now his main occupation – the exposition of other people’s ideas. In this he is masterly. Yet intellect and political loyalties still occasionally conflict, producing confusion. A good example of this is his essay on Francis Fukayama’s The End of History. Fukayama’s grand narrative of historical progress – even though it culminates in the triumph of bourgeois liberal democracy – is of precisely the kind to win Anderson’s admiration. Anderson defends it against its detractors, claiming, on impeccably Marxist grounds, that their various refutations of Fukayama’s hypothesis amount to nothing more than local difficulties, and do not constitute a genuine contradiction. But then – as if suddenly realising what he has admitted – he amasses a whole set of difficulties of his own, ranging from environmental problems to feminism. But these are no more a fundamental contradiction than the difficulties he has previously dismissed. All are manageable within the confines of the present world-system. Fukayama has beaten Anderson at his own game.
Defeated on the political plane, Anderson has at last succumbed to the ‘siren voices of idealism’. His latest essay, The Origins of Postmodernity, is a work of cultural criticism in the classic tradition of Benjamin and Adorno. It is essentially a defence and an elaboration of Frederic Jameson’s thesis that postmodernism constitutes ‘the cultural logic of late capitalism’.
Postmodernism is a natural target of attack for a Marxist. What it signifies is the final disappearance of any critical perspective on the capitalist order. The Soviet Union, for all its imperfections, provided such a perspective, and its existence sustained the avant-garde throughout Europe and America. Now there is nothing but capitalism. Any revolt is immediately assimilated and commodified. Art, realising this, has abandoned its haughty intransigence and entered into alliance with the market. The tone of the essay is one of sorrowful resignation. Anderson can diagnose the malady, but he has no cure.
There is something strangely conservative about Anderson’s denunciation of a world in which, to quote Jameson, ‘we are henceforth so far removed from the realities of production and work that we inhabit a dream world of artificial stimuli and televised experience’. All that remains of Marxism, now that the political illusions have been shattered, is nostalgia for a lost seriousness. It can hardly be a coincidence that the fiercest critics of postmodernism, the most intransigent defenders of the eternal verities, have all been Marxists: Alex Callinicos, David Harvey and Terry Eagleton. At first glance this appears an ironic reversal, but on reflection it could hardly have been otherwise. Marxism cannot be other than conservative, because the one truly revolutionary ideology of the modern world – under whose sign ‘everything solid melts into air’ – is capitalism.

[everything solid melts into air]
Is that like the accounts of Bernie Madoff’s clients or like a GM retiree whose once solid pension has melted into air?
Sad indeed how grand theorists who conclude end of history is liberal democracy never address the fact that liberal democracy has never prevented a single war.
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 6, 2010 @ 10:59 pm
“These are writers that unite a single powerful thesis with a fluent popular style, designed not for an academic readership but a broad international public. This confident genre, of which America has so far a virtual monopoly, finds no equivalent on the Left.”
That’s the thing with ruling ideologies: they are taken for granted, which is where the “genre’s confidence” orginates from.
I’ve never read Weber, but another famous Weberian, Moses Finley, a historian focusing on ancient Greece, frequently incorporates the role of classes in ancient history, unlike Anderson.
Comment by Antonis — March 6, 2010 @ 11:24 pm
If you want to understand why in a big city you’ll invariably see some goofball youth walking down the street with a purple mohawk or why young people today are into covering their bodies with tattoos & stab metal shit into their faces then Weber actually offers some valuable sociological insights into urban bourgeois individualism.
Weber also provided some great insights into why bureaucracies are inevitable in an industrial society, primarily because they deliver the goods most efficiently, even though from the point of view of the individual it feels like you’re a square peg being shoved into a round hole.
But politically Weber was a conservative who supported his German government in WWI. He was an arch anticommunist probably glad to see the likes of Karl & Rosa executed. In the end the abject disasters of the policies he supported probably lead to the stress that contributed to his death.
It’s no accident that living in an individualistic town like LA Perry has utilized the conservatism inherent in Weber’s sociology.
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 7, 2010 @ 1:36 am
The Weberian definition of the state as an apparatus with a monopoly on coercion is a technical definition, and an accurate one. Bitching because it doesn’t involve class is pointless, as the definition presumably applies regardless of which class is in power. Anderson’s whole article is about states which claimed to preside over classless societies and at any rate were not the typical “executive committees of the bourgeoisie”; there is nothing wrong with emphasizing the Weberian definition in this context.
And Anderson does talk about the working class: how it was ultimately a minor part of the revolution in China, and how the working-class program of the Bolsheviks lacked any kind of popular base outside of the cities and thus precluded any non-authoritarian political formation. Mao and the CPC were able to implement a more successful revolution in China because they jettisoned vulgar-Marxist claptrap about the primacy of the working class and instead incorporated the country’s predominant oppressed class, the peasantry, as the movement’s motive force and inspiration. Many of the reforms introduced by Mao could thus be taken up on a popular basis rather than exclusively by state mandate, as in the USSR, and the elite of the CPC thus had to learn early on to adapt themselves to a variety of socioeconomic situations, since they could not rely as much on heavy hand of state coercion acting as their insurance policy in case they fucked up. (The bulk of repression in Mao’s China coming not from the state but from the excesses of the Cultural Revolution, which can be described, in effect, as a period wherein the state’s monopoly on coercion was [semi-] voluntarily abandoned.)
If you had read the article to its end, you would have discovered that Anderson acknowledges modern China as vastly unequal and oppressive, and not at all a desirable model for a society. The relevant fact is that while Russia’s productive forces stagnated and declined in the last quarter of the century and have been mired in dependent status for two decades now, China’s have grown precipitously to the point where it will soon be feasible for the CPC’s elite to challenge Western political and economic hegemony in a way that Stalin’s epigones in the CPSU never could. It is this balance-of-power development rather than any working class revolution that is more likely to put a curb in the global depredations of the U.S. and company. This is pretty bleak, yes, but people like Anderson are bleak because they are intelligent, and honest with themselves. Anyone on the left with both of these characteristics is apt to draw the same conclusions he does.
Comment by Steve — March 7, 2010 @ 2:13 am
If you had read the article to its end, you would have discovered that Anderson acknowledges modern China as vastly unequal and oppressive, and not at all a desirable model for a society.
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I did read the article to its depressing conclusion in fact.
The article is primarily filled with breathless admiration for the “communist” achievements in China with only perfunctory admissions of the “bad stuff”. Here’s a typical passage that I did not include in my post:
“The material success of this model of development has made the PRC the contemporary wonder of the world. With a rate of investment of over 40 per cent, in fifteen years GDP grew four times over, between 1989 and 2004. In the cities, the income of urban households rose at a rate of 7.7 per cent a year; in the countryside, at nearly 5 per cent. From the beginning of the Reform Era to 2006, the average living standards of the Chinese increased eight times over, expressed in dollars. In a single decade, the urban population jumped by 200 million. [15] City-dwellers now comprise two-fifths of the nation, and sustain the largest car market in the world. Towering above even Japanese reserves, holdings of foreign exchange top $1.9 trillion, more than the gnp of Canada. China has arrived, with a vengeance.”
Martin Jacques could not have put it better.
Also, as I pointed out in the beginning of my article there is little attention paid to socialist goals in Anderson’s article. Cuba may not have the same GDP increase rates as China but it ranks in the highest tier of nations according to the latest UN HDI report. China is toward the bottom on the lower tier.
I can certainly understand why someone like Anderson would be mesmerized by China. It is most certainly inspired by the kind of hegemonic bloc thinking that you find among MR theorists like Samir Amin et al. If socialism is such a dim possibility in the USA and Britain et al, why not orient to the Chinese “communists”?
One thing I’d like to take bets on though. I will bet my Macbook that Perry Anderson, a UCLA professor, has been seen nowhere near the student protests over tuition hikes in California. Any takers?
Comment by louisproyect — March 7, 2010 @ 2:28 am
Of course there’s no chance he’d be out there with the students like Zinn or Chomsky because he’s both “conservative” and “intelligent” — plus he might get his picture taken or get a mike shoved in his face for an interview!
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 7, 2010 @ 2:46 am
The NLR has many articles by Martin Hart-Lansberg that document the myriad of injustices and destructive externalities spurred by Chinese economic reform. Any extended discussion of these by Anderson would be redundant and off-topic.
My only gripe with Anderson’s piece is that he somewhat overstates the extent to which the Chinese economy has become “capitalist.” It’s worth noting that the majority of firms, and all land, are still state-owned, and that the economy is still more or less planned (outside the FDI-heavy “special zones”) – the CPC’s technocracy tends to direct investment with a view toward long-term development rather than the “optimum” profitability of firms, and finance capital is very highly regulated, basically depriving its agents of any basis for the formation of independent class power. Of course, the economy can’t be properly called “socialist” either, not least because of obscene levels of stratification, but the above facts at least put paid to idiotic bourgeois canards about China the free-market miracle.
Comment by Steve — March 7, 2010 @ 3:07 am
[the CPC’s technocracy tends to direct investment with a view toward long-term development rather than the “optimum” profitability of firms, and finance capital is very highly regulated, basically depriving its agents of any basis for the formation of independent class power.]
Over time, however, as the Chinese bourgeoisie inevitably grows in political strength this economic tendency will likely move more & more toward short term profitability & degregulation in the relentless quest for profit.
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 7, 2010 @ 3:22 am
And the China/Cuba comparison is not valid. China historically has been much more impoverished and subject to colonial pillage than Cuba (the Platt amendment was quaint in comparison to what was inflicted on 19th-century China by nearly every European power, as well as the U.S.), with Mao starting from a much lower baseline of development than Castro. If the HDI had been around 35 years ago, China would have ranked even lower.
As for protests, who gives a shit? Pat Buchanan goes to anti-globalization rallies – does that give him leftist credentials? Any mouth-breather can wave a sign and shout slogans, which is all that protests in this country ever amount to anyway. What matters is the ability to formulate coherent ideas, so that if a viable revolutionary force does emerge, its agents have something to operate by.
Comment by Steve — March 7, 2010 @ 3:31 am
“Any mouth-breather can wave a sign and shout slogans, which is all that protests in this country ever amount to anyway. What matters is the ability to formulate coherent ideas, so that if a viable revolutionary force does emerge, its agents have something to operate by.”
An impeccably Marxist restatement of the unity of theory and practice! lol
Comment by Andy — March 7, 2010 @ 5:56 am
Im sorry louis but Anderson stands on a distinctly higher level then that New Statesmen hack. God Im so tired of that conservative left revolutionary right crap, well yes turning back the clock is certainly extreme not revolutionary though. That stuff about Latin American terrorism, was he referring to the dictatorships that triumphant liberal democracies supported?
Comment by SGuy — March 7, 2010 @ 6:33 am
1) SGuy: Who is “that New Statesmen hack” anyway?
2) China’s outcome may have been different had it been situated 90 miles away from armed-to-the-teeth Uncle Sam like Cuba, not to mention if Cuba had “Most Favored Nation” trading status. Maybe if after a visit from a US President Castro tried to invade Nicaragua after the Sandanista’s took power like China did to Vietnam after Nixon visted Mao then Cuba too would have MFN status?
(There’s not much written about that episode but I once read that in that brief invasion the fighting was so brutal, and the Vietnamese fighters so hardened, that China lost about 50,000 troops in a week! If that’s true then somebody needs to write a definitive book about that war.)
3) Perry mentioned how initial Bolshevik policies devastated the countryside. True enough, “War Communism” was a man made disaster but the operative word there was “War” which the Bolsheviks didn’t start, either the civil war or World War 1, which did a lot more to devastate the Russian peasantry than the Bolsheviks did, whereas China was affected by, but not a participant in, WWII.
True enough, Lenin’s cosmopolitan worldview was oriented toward Russia’s relatively small industrial proletariate to the neglect of the peasantry but he hoped that industrial class base would instigate the German industrial workers and ignite all of Europe. It’s not like workers in Berlin would have much solidarity with Kulaks in the Steppe, whereas Mao was less cosmopolitan in backround and built the Long March not from urban dwellers but from the peasantry which weren’t particularly devastated by world war so naturally there was more enthusiasm for communism in the countryside than in Russia’s case. Moreover, it wasn’t Lenin’s fault that Czarism didn’t have state owned factories already in place.
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 7, 2010 @ 8:41 am
And the China/Cuba comparison is not valid.
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You seem like a bright fellow, Steve, so I assume you preferred to dodge this question rather than fail to understand what I wrote. I said that Cuba ranks much higher than China in terms of human development indicators (health, literacy, etc.) That has nothing to do with the country’s past history. Another way of looking at the problem is to look at China’s Gini coefficient, a measure of the divide between rich and poor. Here’s what Marxist blogger Alice Poon has to say:
Let us now take a look at the global situation. I have found some GINI coefficient ranking statistics compiled by the United Nation. In these statistics, the higher the grading means the more unequal the society. China’s coefficient is 0.447 and is among the thirty countries that have the widest wealth gap. I could not find any developed country whose rich-poor gap is worse than China’s. For example, Denmark, Japan, Sweden and Norway rank No. 1, 2, 3 and 5 as the most equal societies and their respective GINI coefficient are 0.247, 0.249, 0.25 and 0.258. Even the United States, who is well known for having great wealth inequality, has a coefficient of 0.408; Germany – 0.283, Britain – 0.36, and France – 0.327. Those economically advanced countries with ratings over 0.40 include only the U.S. and Singapore (0.425), but they are still lower than China’s figure. As for those countries whose rich-poor gap is worse than China’s, they are mostly the poorest countries like some African countries, Sri Lanka and Haiti, plus some developing countries whose economies are a notch better, like Brazil, Mexico, Argentina and Chile.
http://alicewaihanpoon.blogspot.com/2007/08/chinas-gini-coefficient-and-market.html
She posted this piece in 2007. It is well understood that the gap between rich and poor in China continues to grow apace.
In terms of Anderson’s failure to participate in protests of any sort, I can only say that your crack about Pat Buchanan is singularly stupid. Perhaps you are not as bright as I thought.
Comment by louisproyect — March 7, 2010 @ 1:40 pm
“One thing I’d like to take bets on though. I will bet my Macbook that Perry Anderson, a UCLA professor, has been seen nowhere near the student protests over tuition hikes in California. Any takers?”
I will take this wager on the condition that you accept an equivalent bet for Brad DeLong.
Comment by epoliticus — March 7, 2010 @ 3:31 pm
Nevermind SGuy: Figured it out. The “hack” is allegedly Edward Sidelsky.
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 7, 2010 @ 3:33 pm
The best book on the history of the New Left Review I’ve read is Duncan Thompson’s. This is my precis of it here: http://www.metamute.org/en/New-Left-Old-Pessimism
Comment by James Heartfield — March 7, 2010 @ 4:03 pm
Re: comment # 4 — Perhaps also “Mao and the CPC were able to implement a more successful revolution in China because” unlike the Soviets Mao possessed the uniquely revolutionary ability to sip tea & shake Nixon’s hand while the US Air Force was carpet bombing Haiphong Harbor.
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 7, 2010 @ 4:50 pm
James, you write in your linked article: »None of the core editorial team, though, had much familiarity with Marx’s critique of political economy, and Thompson puts it fairly when he says they were ‘less interested in economics and more attuned to political and questions of political strategy’.«
In the previous issue they had the good sense to include a very interesting article about the current state of the Chinese model of accumulation
http://www.newleftreview.org/?page=article&view=2809
but overall it seems that Political Economy is still a dead dog, at the NLR as elsewhere on the Left. The really important questions never get asked, and if they do get asked (as in the piece Ho-fung Hung), the answers are quickly forgotten. The possibility that the Chinese model of accumulation is in fact in crisis is not even seriously considered.
Comment by Wu Ming 1138 — March 7, 2010 @ 5:16 pm
“I said that Cuba ranks much higher than China in terms of human development indicators (health, literacy, etc.) That has nothing to do with the country’s past history.”
Ahahahahaha, really? So, I assume you will now follow this line of reasoning to its end and embrace Western liberal capitalism wholeheartedly, since no socialist country has ever ranked above the U.S. or Western Europe on the HDI. For that matter, do black people in the U.S. have nobody but themselves to blame for their lower average life expectancy, literacy rate, etc, and higher levels of crime and unemployment? I mean, if history doesn’t matter…
The HDI measures three things: literacy rates, life expectancy, and per capita GDP. Cuba in 1958 was a middle-tier nation by Latin American standards in all three of these respects: the indicators were not as impressive as those in Chile or Argentina at the time, nor were they as lacking as those in Guatemala or Honduras. China in 1948 was one of the poorest and most wretched countries in the world, and had just come off decades of lawlessness, Japanese occupation, and civil war (exponentially worse than the upheaval caused by Castro and Che’s military campaign against Batista). Pre-Mao China experienced famines every few years, had no public education system or social safety net to speak of, no sanitation, virtually no infrastructure, and most of its economic resources had been either siphoned off by the West or confiscated by the Qing dynasty and the succession of kleptocratic governments that followed it. Literacy rates and life expectancy in Cuba, low as they were before Castro, were higher by a wide margin than those in pre-Mao China. Also take into account the population and area of the respective countries – it is much more difficult to raise literacy rates and deliver effective medical services in a country of 800 million – 1 billion people, that is nearly 4 million square miles in area and had no reliable means of transportation and communication circa the date of Mao’s taking power. Finally, the fact that China’s per captia GDP still isn’t as high as Cuba’s despite having much higher growth rates has nothing to do with the Gini coeffcicient – a high per capita GDP can signal an equitable distribution of wealth, or it can signal spectacular wealth in the hands of the few while the rest starve. The numerical result is the same. The disparity has everything to do with the fact that China possessed a much more meager resource base per capita in 1948 than Cuba in 1958, and thus would require vastly higher growth rates even to close the gap. So, to reiterate what I said in the last post, the differences in ranking between China and Cuba are due in a substantial part to the unequal starting points of their respective “post-capitalist” development paths.
On protests: they sure did a bang-up job of stopping the Iraq war, didn’t they? And boy, wasn’t it awesome when they made CAFTA sink like a stone? Face facts – protests have not accomplished anything in the U.S. since the early ’70s. Their main purpose today is to stoke the protestors’ egos and give them a venue to meet fellow hobbyists, whose mien and behavior is more likely to alienate members of the popular classes rather than win them over anyway. It is not counter-revolutionary behavior to decide not to attend them.
Comment by Steve — March 7, 2010 @ 7:06 pm
Steve: So, I assume you will now follow this line of reasoning to its end and embrace Western liberal capitalism wholeheartedly, since no socialist country has ever ranked above the U.S. or Western Europe on the HDI.
Me: No such conclusion can be drawn. The only point being made is that China is a capitalist country whose economy benefits the wealthy just as is the case in South Korea, the Philippines or any other East Asian country. The only item that has people like Perry Anderson confused is that the governing party was once associated with a powerful socialist revolution. It has nothing to do with that party except the name.
Steve: Cuba in 1958 was a middle-tier nation by Latin American standards in all three of these respects: the indicators were not as impressive as those in Chile or Argentina at the time, nor were they as lacking as those in Guatemala or Honduras.
Me: I take it you have no idea of the costs of invasion, contra wars, economic blockade and all the rest to Cuba.
Steve: The disparity has everything to do with the fact that China possessed a much more meager resource base per capita in 1948 than Cuba in 1958, and thus would require vastly higher growth rates even to close the gap.
Me: I see you keep evading the question of Gini coefficients. If you are mesmerized by “growth rates” rather than daily caloric intake and the right to medical care, then there’s not much I do for you.
Steve: It is not counter-revolutionary behavior to decide not to attend them.
Me: Of course not. Perry Anderson is not a counter-revolutionary. He is only a Marxist don of the sort he lacerated in the 1960s.
Comment by louisproyect — March 7, 2010 @ 7:16 pm
Gini coefficients have nothing necessarily to do with either caloric intake or medical care. If your nation is dirt poor, you can have the lowest Gini coefficient in the world and it won’t mean jack shit since there aren’t any resources to be equally distributed in the first place. The absolute standard of living, including caloric intake, of the majority of Chinese has increased since the reforms – there has been very little upward redistribution of existing wealth since 1978, so much as a very skewed pattern in distribution of the new wealth that was created. Besides, I acknowledged earlier that China has extremely high levels of inequality and that this is not a good thing, and I even recommended the work of someone who has written in depth on the subject. You fail.
“I take it you have no idea of the costs of invasion, contra wars, economic blockade and all the rest to Cuba.”
If you think the Bay of Pigs (nipped in the bud), the Spanish-American War, and the embargo on Cuba (mostly negated until the fall of the USSR by the latter’s practice of purchasing Cuban sugar at above the above the global market price) are anywhere near the same class as Chiang Kai-shek’s terror campaigns, the second Sino-Japanese War which saw holocaust-level civilian casualties, and the embargo levied on Mao’s China by practically the entire world up until the rapprochment with Nixon, you are an idiot, full stop. Read. A fucking. Book.
Comment by Steve — March 7, 2010 @ 8:45 pm
Steve: Besides, I acknowledged earlier that China has extremely high levels of inequality and that this is not a good thing, and I even recommended the work of someone who has written in depth on the subject.
Me: Not a good thing? Did you learn that formulation from the Grundrisse?
Steve: Read. A fucking. Book.
Me: I have actually. I recommend Maurice Meissner’s books on China in particular. Btw, Nixon visited China nearly 40 years ago. There has not been much in the way of an imperialist siege of China since then. In fact the past 25 years or so since the market “reforms” have led to the dismantling of China’s socialist foundations for what they were worth. For those who are impressed with China’s capitalist take-off since then are better advised to read Tom Friedman, not Perry Anderson. At least Friedman does not use Marxist jargon to defend the primitive accumulation of capital.
Comment by louisproyect — March 7, 2010 @ 8:57 pm
I’ll bet five bucks you’ve never actually read any books by Maurice Meisner (one ‘s’). If you had, you might actually have some vague inkling of the conjuncture that China was faced with following Mao’s accession to power. And China has a level of government intervention in the economy that would make Tom Friedman crap his pants. (So do most East Asian economies, for what it’s worth. They also have mostly low Gini coefficients, contrary to what you implied about South Korea and the like.) You’re just cranky because some sections of modern economy don’t conform to the circa-1850 analysis of volume 1 of Capital and you’re too old and stagnant to critically examine any of your assumptions.
Comment by Steve — March 7, 2010 @ 9:45 pm
Well, it has been more than 10 years since I have read Meisner but I don’t see much point debating this any further since we (and Perry Anderson for that matter) agree that China is a capitalist country. I guess I am too old and cranky to examine at least one assumption: capitalism is a rotten system. I’ll stick with V. 1 of Capital and you of course are entitled to base your politics on whatever it is that you find useful, whether it is Max Weber or whoever. That’s about it for me.
Bye.
Comment by louisproyect — March 7, 2010 @ 9:54 pm
In general I fear that you are unfair to PA and tend to paint a set of complicated arguments with one brush. Now, I won’t contest the claim that PA, particularly in pieces such as “Renewals”, is far from optimistic. But the brutally sober tone of that piece doesn’t detract from the truth of a lot of the claims. In 2000, was it false to claim that the 1990s had been one huge slam-dunk for neoliberalism? Was it false to say that neoliberal ideas (be they postmodern, economic, etc.) had achieved a kind of intellectual hegemony in much academic culture in the 1990s? I dont think so. But merely noting the immense challenges ahead for the Left is not tantamount to claiming that nothing could be done to change existing states of affairs. This doesn’t entail fatalism. It merely notes what the challenges are. We ignore these challenges at our own peril.
PA’s interventions and writings on contemporary European politics (e.g. in the LRB, but now collected in his “The New Old World”), are all helpful in making sense of the current conjuncture and working towards changing it from a Marxist angle. Why should it be PA’s task to tell us precisely what needs doing?
To say that PA’s work is conservative is unfounded. His reflective, sober analyses of current states of affairs are helpful for anyone trying to put together a revolutionary movement for change. Will one find, in PA’s writings, the resources on precisely how we might go about organizing and actually changing things? No. But I’m not convinced that we should require this of him in every single piece he writes. Moreover, this omission doesn’t detract from the quality of his (Marxist) historical and theoretical work.
Comment by T — March 7, 2010 @ 11:27 pm
Honestly, I don’t find Perry Anderson of the last 15 years or so very useful. I was very strongly influenced by “Considerations” and “Tracks” and found his more scholarly work on the “transition” problem very useful as a counterweight to the Brenner thesis. But I find the newer stuff sterile and demoralized.
Comment by louisproyect — March 8, 2010 @ 12:55 am
#19 – [On protests: they sure did a bang-up job of stopping the Iraq war, didn’t they? ....protests have not accomplished anything in the U.S. since the early ’70s.]
Even the protests of the 70′s didn’t accomplish anything — except the demoralization of US Troops in Vietnam. In that regard they were decisive.
Nor were protestors actions wasted this century. At every stage of the Gulf War at least half the US public (and moreso around the world) was skeptical of the neocon’s shifting rational for attacking Iraq. The enormous value of the protests, piddly as they became, validated the publics skepticism regarding these criminal policies, and their skeptism helped, willy-nilly, demoralize those troops. Of course the biggest source of demoralization was heroic resistance of the Iraqi people, without which George W. Bush would have been considered a genius instead of the cowardly little congenitally degenerate blunderbus that will prove to be his legacy.
The fact that people took to barricades against imperialist turpitude (barricade fighters being far more decisive in history than professors) — despite the confusion & perfidy sown by the likes of MoveOn.org, UFPJ and lazy pessimists who proclaim that bodies in the street amount to nothing, hardly amounts to ego stroking and alienating the “popular classes”. If anything it let the popular classes know they weren’t alone & crazy in their disdain for mindless displays of disgusting patriotism.
Marxists, unless there just bandying about his name rhetorically, never underestimate the ability of bodies in the street to influence politics because, alas, it’s still usually the only thing that does.
Comment by Karl Friedrich — March 8, 2010 @ 2:44 am
There is a lot of internal class disputes in China which any CCP party leader knows. Occasionally things leak out to the West, such as this article. Where Yu Jianrong , their top government-backed expert on social stability notes that ‘mass incidents’ have gone up %1,000 over the last 25 years.
China is a place most Westerners know as a tourist but the Chinese working class is mostly invisible to us.
Comment by purple — March 8, 2010 @ 5:48 am
On # 4 (and the quote from Anderson in the post that it addresses), the “Weberian definition”:
(1) No state ever has or ever has had an actual monopoly of violence or even of organised violence.
(2) To say that the state has a monopoly of *legitimate* violence is completely circular, because it assumes the self-identification of the state as “legitimate”. Leave aside the substantive morality of state claims to legitimacy: the “monopoly of legitimate violence” produces a criterion which is perfectly useless as a value-free criterion in discriminating between on the one hand functioning states, de facto states and serious contenders for power (like Maoist ‘liberated zones’), and on the other ex-states (like the old imperial Russian government in exile or the Jacobites in Saint-Germains) and small terrorist groups which purport to ‘try’ people, etc.
It also identifies the state (cops, taxmen, etc) completely with the law/ judiciary, thus ‘dematerialising’ the state even as it purports to make a ‘scientific’ judgment on its existence.
(3) It is more useful – still abstracting from class – to say that a functioning state has within the territory it controls a sufficient *preponderance* of organised violence – an army in being and its backup logistic apparatus – to be able to extract a part of the social surplus product in the form of tax.
Of course, this immediately *poses* the question of class, since a ruling class is in principle a group which extracts a part of the social surplus product …
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