Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

May 6, 2009

Red Diaper Baby

Filed under: Gay, socialism — louisproyect @ 6:14 pm

Allen Young
(photo by Robert Giard, copyright 1992)

Not long after I posted the Robert Duncan essay on “Homosexuality and Society” on my blog, Allen Young showed up to post a comment:

Dear Louis, One of my gay email friends brought this to my attention. Recent comment on your blog is by Giles Kotcher, a friend of mine from the NY Gay Liberation Front (early 1970s). When I tell friends about my childhood, I sometimes remark about your father’s store and especially the pickles. I think the last time we were in touch was around the time of the “Weatherman” film. Naomi Jaffe, whom you mentioned at that time because she is in the film, has recently joined a rather extreme pro-Palestinian group of Jews who reject the right of Israel to exist. My views are different from hers on this topic, and others. So life goes on. Stay in touch.

I imagine that Allen does not hold my own extreme pro-Palestinian views against me since we have had amiable email exchanges since he got in touch. Both Allen and his cousin Naomi Jaffe figure in the comic book about my life that will be published within the year unless Random House goes out of business.

As will be clear from the mini-memoir by Allen that appears below, he (and Naomi as well) was a red diaper baby in the tiny village next to mine and three years ahead of me in school. Both became leading SDS’ers in the 1960s. Naomi joined the Weatherman and Allen went on to become a theoretician and activist in the gay liberation movement.

In chapter one of the comic book about the unrepentant Marxist, you will find all sorts of interesting anecdotes about the Communist subculture in the Borscht Belt. In addition to the Young and Jaffe family, there was my piano teacher Henrietta Neukreug who like Allen’s parents kept copies of Soviet magazines on her living room coffee table. Sid Caesar, who got started in show business in a nearby hotel, was performing Odets plays there in the 1940s. And so on.

I have a feeling that Allen’s article is a bit tougher on extremists like me than the original talk he gave at a conference on the 1960s at Eastern Connecticut University in 1994 that I attended. Whatever problems I have with his current-day political views, I have nothing but admiration for Allen’s life-long dedication to the cause, his elegant writing style, and his piquant sense of humor (his anecdote about discussing the Butcher Franco in high school lasted with me since I heard it in 1994.)

Red Diaper Baby
By Allen Young

©1994 by Allen Young

My parents were members of the Communist Party (CP), so that makes me a ‘red diaper baby.’ If I had to sum up my political evolution, I could summarize it this way: I started out in the Old Left, became involved with unbridled enthusiasm in the New Left, and now just feel pretty much left out.

Actually, I don’t feel so much ‘left out’ as unwilling and unable to find a label that works for me. There are political ‘causes’ that I care about and I am an avid believer in the concept of democracy, but I am by no means a ‘political junkie’ and I am turned off by zealotry. I still have some radical ideas but I don’t want to be as marginalized as I was earlier in my life. I am a registered Democrat though sometimes disappointed by Democratic office-holders, write letters to my elected officials, and I still vote without fail in every election.

Growing up in a Communist Party household when McCarthyism reigned in America was a challenge. I was, like most children, strongly influenced by my parents’ way of looking at the world. It’s important to note that they did not identify openly as Communists. This was due to a mixture of fear, discretion and party policy. During this historical period of crude repression, ‘rank and file’ members were encouraged to keep their membership secret while CP officers were open. My parents and their friends described themselves most often as ‘progressive’ and on occasion as ‘socialist,’ but I sensed in my childhood that they were pro-Communist, and eventually learned from them that they were actual members. The media used to refer to ‘card-carrying Communists,’ but I neglected to ask them if they ever carried a membership card.

It took some time for me to diverge from my parents’ political views and develop my own. This first occurred in the early 1960s when I left home to go away to college. Only then did I become aware of other left-wing groups and especially a development called the New Left. One of the New Left’s leading thinkers, an iconoclastic Texas-born sociologist and prolific writer named C. Wright Mills, was one of my teachers at Columbia. My political development continued in the late sixties when the New Left took on a more activist form and I dived in with fervor and apparently limitless conviction.

How did ‘nice people’ like my parents, Rae and Louis Young, become Communists, affiliated with a group of people which society hated and scorned during my formative years? Living in New York City in the 1920s and 1930s, my parents completed high school, but due to family finances, they had to get jobs and were unable to attend college. Predictably, both became involved in the burgeoning and highly successful labor movement. My father worked as a printer, my mother in the retail clothing trade. Many in the labor movement joined the Communist Party because of its strong commitment, both ideologically and in practical terms, to workers’ rights. Furthermore, the CP took a strong stand against anti-Semitism and against the racist Jim Crow laws in the U.S. south. The party advocated socialized medicine while some of its proposals, most notably social security system, were adopted by the New Deal of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The CP grew to tens of thousands of members in the 1930s, but by the 1950s the numbers had dwindled. My parents were among those few thousand nationwide who remained steadfast.

One reason for the decline of the CP was the lack of internal democracy in the party. Indeed, my father complained occasionally about the egotistical and autocratic party leaders. Another reason for the party’s decline was its insistence on the Soviet Union under Stalin as a role model. The CP faithful refusd to take seriously reports in the press about Stalin’s crimes; this was seen as ‘the bourgeois press’ trying to undermine the much-admired ‘first socialist nation.’ Soviet foreign policy was especially troublesome, and many left the party after Stalin signed a pact with Hitler. More left after World War II when Communist governments consolidated power, with the help of the Red Army, throughout Eastern Europe. The ranks were thinned further when Khrushchev gave significant revelations of Stalin’s crimes, of the murders of millions. And they left when Hungary was invaded by Red Army troops in 1956. My parents did not leave, however, continuing their membership well into the late 1950s. Although I think they were seriously disillusioned, they did not leave voluntarily but were expelled as the result of bogus charges of racism. Expulsion of people from the CP on various charges was not unusual; as the party weakened, a sort of cannibalization occurred.

While Communism was so vilified by society in the 1950s, what I saw of Communists, as a child, was quite benign. My father was an active member of a farmers cooperative and both of my parents were active in the American Labor Party, considered a front group for the Communist Party (though the term “front group” was essentially a hostile epithet that was rejected by my parents). My mother’s most memorable and admirable activity was a successful campaign to improve the living conditions of migrant African-American laundry workers who cleaned the sheets and towels for the famous resorts of the Catskill Mountains. I grew up with a great sense of pride in the political struggle waged by my parents and their friends. I did not identify their politics as ‘Communist’ but it was all thinly veiled. CP publications were always in our house. There were many meetings and film-showings at party meetings in our home. I quietly perched at the top of the stairs and tried to hear everything. At one meeting, my parents called to me and asked me to look in our (hopelessly outdated) encyclopedia to find out about the height of wheat grown in the United States. Someone was asserting that wheat in the Soviet Union grew taller.

My parents called themselves and their friends “progressives,” a kind of closet terminology that I find irksome, causing me to dislike the use of the term today despite its return to popularity. My pride in my parents was based on their defense of working people, their opposition to racism and fascism, their reverence for peace. Part of the pride resulted from the sense of being different, being special. Some red diaper babies have written about how this “difference” was an unpleasant, sometimes horrible and alienating experience, but for me, it was more thrilling and self-satisfying than scary. There were a few instances where I was hassled; someone once asked me Stalin’s wife’s first name, which of course I did not know. In that incident, what frightened me was the towering older boy was who was questioning me.

Being raised in a Communist Party household had advantages and disadvantages for a curious young man. It was not as ‘cool’ as some people think, for after all my parents were not bohemians or anarchists; in fact, despite all the Marxist-Leninist tracts and dedication to socialism, their values and especially their ambitions for me were quite middle class (or ‘bourgeois,’ as the jargon goes).

I was essentially indoctrinated into left-wing dogma. I was not encouraged to think for myself, and I was not particularly well educated in the more controversial and complex aspects of left-wing politics. I knew ‘Trotskyite’ was an epithet, but I had no idea until I was a college student who Leon Trotsky was or what his followers stood for. In some areas, what I learned was useful at times though harmful in its absolute tone — for example, I was taught to mistrust the U.S. press and government authority. Communists gave a great deal of importance to Negro History Month, and I learned about Sojourner Truth and Frederick Douglass (not part of any public school curriculum in those days) — but I didn’t learn that Richard Wright, the great Negro novelist, had bitterly broken with the Communist Party. It wasn’t until several years later that I read the accounts by Wright and others in the aptly titled book The God That Failed. I learned a lot of labor history and knew about Joe Hill and the International Ladies Garment Workers Union, but it took me years to accept the idea that labor unions might be corrupt or labor leaders self-serving. In social studies class, I was a tiger when it came to defending the faith, though now some of this seems foolish. When my teacher used the term “satellite” to describe Czechoslovakia and Bulgaria, I protested vociferously. I remember once referring in class to the leader of Spain as “Butcher Franco,” thinking that “Butcher” was his first name, when in fact it was an epithet I had read in an American Labor Party leaflet.

While I was committed to my parents’ political views and did not squelch my own radicalism, it is also true that McCarthyism and the Cold War ‘Red Scare’ were threatening to me and to my parents. My mother was foreign born and had to get a lawyer to help her obtain documentation requested by the government, so that she could avoid deportation. My parents burned many of the pamphlets they owned, much of it CP literature praising the Soviet Union. I remember being frightened and upset at this book-burning. They were horrified and saddened by the execution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg and they raised money to free Morton Sobell, who was sentenced to 30 years in a Federal prison for a related conspiracy charge. I became friends with Michael Meeropol, the son of the Rosenbergs, in 1958 when I was a freshman at Columbia and, by coincidence, his adoptive parents living in Manhattan were neighbors of family friends. This was only five years after his parents’ execution.

The friendship of other red diaper babies was important during my youth. We were a special community, and we banded together against a hostile outside world. We rarely, if ever, expressed doubts about our parents’ political views. We were kids, for sure, but we were different from other kids because we knew so much about politics and what we knew was in such stark contradiction to the majority viewpoint. I remember once, at age 10 or 11, hiding behind a hedge along Riverside Drive in New York City with my friend Michael Lessac. We were usually good boys, but this time, to entertain ourselves, we had water pistols and were squirting people who walked by. But when a black woman walked by, neither of us squirted. Later, we had a discussion about which was the right thing to do: show our belief in equality by squirting the black woman the same way we squirted white people, or refrain from squirting because we knew she was a victim of racism. You could say our decision to not squirt was an early version of affirmative action.

When I left home and arrived at Columbia University in the fall of 1958, my political outlook began to shift but one would be hard put to say I was in rebellion against my parents’ views. The process of change was more subtle than that. The New Left began in the late 1950s with British pacifists who objected to Soviet nuclear program as much as to the Western nuclear program. In the late 1950s and early 1960s, there were various new publications expressing the ideas of the New Left, magazines like Studies on the Left (Madison, Wisc.), New University Thought in Chicago and Root and Branch in Berkeley, all of which I read. The policies of the Soviet Union were beginning to be questioned, especially the militarism and the lack of democracy, also the specific brutality and the anti-Semitism of the Stalinist regime. Stalin had been a heroic figure for my parents in the 1940s and even up to his death in 1953, but now things were starting to change. Away from home, I met other kinds of socialists, those who supported Norman Thomas (the so-called right wing socialists or social democrats), the Trotskyists, and others. I went to meetings and heard speeches by a variety of people: Norman Thomas, Bayard Rustin, Mike Harrington, Eleanor Roosevelt, Benjamin Davis (a leader of the CP). None of the other groups in the Old Left appealed to me, however, even though they were actively recruiting (unlike the CP, which was laying low). The anti-communism of these groups bothered me, and some of the people seemed a little nutty. I’m convinced that people who are very needy psychologically, some even mentally disturbed, gravitate toward certain political and religious groups. In this regard, leftist sects are not unlike religious cults.

In 1959, Fidel Castro and the guerrillas he led came to power in Cuba, and this was a watershed event for me. Here was a real independent revolutionary, someone challenging capitalism and the United States but not subservient to the Soviet Union and clearly not dogmatic. The Cuban revolution also had an element of irreverence and fun to it. My professor, C. Wright Mills, visited Cuba and returned to write a strongly pro-Castro book, Listen Yankee. Mills, through his lectures and his other major books, White Collar, Power Elite, The Causes of World War III, had a profound influence on me. Like Fidel sporting a beard, Mills rode a motorcycle and refused to wear a jacket and tie, the only professor I knew who rebelled in this way. I met some dynamic individuals on the Columbia campus who became outspoken defenders of the Cuban Revolution, among them the economist James O’Connor (then an instructor at Barnard, where he had a reputation for dating college girls) and Electa Rodriguez, a Mexican-born Spanish teacher who was smart and beautiful. The CP was lukewarm at best toward Castro, who was supported by the Cuban Partido Socialista Popular (as the Cuban Communists were called) only when his insurrection was about to succeed.

There was no magic moment that turned me into a New Leftist; it was a gradual process that led me to change my views. I like to say that I began to think for myself. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that I began to listen to ideas other than the ones presented by my parents and their friends and the left-wing periodicals that came into my childhood home.

I developed decidedly critical ideas about the Soviet Union, realizing that it was not democratic, also seeing its leaders as stodgy and boring, and also concerned about the Soviets’ lack of support for Cuba and for armed revolution elsewhere in Latin America. The Old Left was quick to label the New Left as infantile leftist or adventurist or to dismiss it as ideologically weak, while I and my new friends considered the Old Left to be, well, old and tired and boring and increasingly irrelevant and dishonest. My political activities in the period from 1958-64, when I was in college and graduate school, ranged from the Youth March for Integrated Schools (1958), picketing Woolworth store at 110th Street and Broadway because Woolworth lunch counters in the south refused to integrate, writing and passing out leaflets for the Student Committee for a Sane Nuclear Policy (to warn of the danger of strontium 90, the result of fallout from above-ground tests). I canceled my subscription to the National Guardian when the newspaper made excuses for the Soviet testing, but I quietly returned to the paper because I was so used to it and did not have a good alternative. I was decidedly not attracted to ordinary liberal politics because it was too sedate and not committed to radical change. I was ready for the New Left, but it really wasn’t quite off the ground at this point. I was part of a group called ACTION at Columbia, comparable to other campus activist groups in the early 1960s — many of us were red diaper babies, but our focus was the campus. I was the editor of the Columbia Daily Spectator and used that position to promote some radical ideas. Spectator ran my editorial on the Sobell case, which was attacked by Prof. Daniel Bell, a liberal sociologist who not coincidentally hated C. Wright Mills.

My career development at this point was greatly influenced by the turn of events in Cuba. I took my existing interest in journalism a step further and decided I wanted to become a foreign correspondent specializing in Latin America. I had already fulfilled my college’s foreign language requirement, but decided to study a new language: Spanish. I also decided to obtain a master’s degree in Latin American Studies, choosing an institute at Stanford University in California which had obtained a lot of publicity for exposing secret CIA training camps for Cuban exiles in Guatemala. At Stanford, I studied yet another foreign language, Portuguese, the language of Brazil.

I was in California at Stanford in October 1962 during the Cuban missile crisis and I was one of three speakers (along with Peter Eisenberg and Saul Landau) at a public forum to criticize President Kennedy because I felt Castro was justified in doing what he needed to do to stop a U.S. invasion. That was a scary moment — the three of us were all Jewish and we had to endure anti-Semitic taunts. While at Stanford, I studied Marxist economics with Paul Baran, and made friends with other leftists including Marvin and Barbara Garson and Landau. I also began to get in touch with the cultural changes that were taking place, and among the people I met was Ronnie Davis, leader of the San Francisco Mime Troupe (founded in 1959).

My first public action on Vietnam came early in the war — on May 2, 1964, when I attended a demonstration against U.S. intervention in Vietnam. I surely would not have known about this small demonstration if I were not in touch with the left in New York. I was at this time a student at the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, working on my second masters degree. This May 2 action took at the intersection of 110th Street and Central Park West and was sponsored by an obscure Maoist group, soon to be called the May 2 movement in honor of this event. My gut reaction against the war was a reflection of my Old Left allegiances, but my understanding of the war deepened when I read a 1964 pamphlet by the New Left journalist Robert Scheer, entitled ‘How the U.S. Got Involved in Vietnam’ and published by the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions.

I spent three years in Latin America, 1964 to 1967, the first year as a Fulbright scholar to Brazil. A crucial point in my personal life was the curious dichotomy between my radical ideas and my mainstream ambitions for my personal life. At the point of my departure from the U.S. for Rio de Janeiro, I vaguely assumed I would get married and have children, even though I knew my inclinations and most of my experiences were homosexual. Similarly, though my inclinations were toward socialist revolution, I assumed I deserved a Fulbright scholarship (administered, after all, by the U.S. Department of State), and I also assumed I would have a career as a foreign correspondent, preferably for The New York Times. Looking back on this phase of my life, I see a basic contradiction in the message I got from my parents: on the one hand, I was supposed to admire socialist heroes and values; on the other hand, seek a successful middle class professional life. My parents wanted me to be a doctor, precisely because they felt a doctor could be a radical while a journalist would be deprived of freedom of expression.

In Brazil, I benefited from friendships I had made with some Brazilian student radicals who trusted me because they knew I was a student of Marxist economist Paul Baran. Professor Baran was widely known and respected in Latin America, though he was vilified by Stanford alumni and virtually ignored by the U.S. economic profession. In Brazil, Chile, Peru, Uruguay and Argentina, I traveled widely and met people of many political stripes, but I was closest to independent leftists. I identified as a New Leftist and as a supporter of the Cuban Revolution, and that enabled me to overcome the widespread anti-American prejudice I found throughout the region. Of course, there were exceptions, people who couldn’t tolerate any norteamericano, people who may even have thought I was an agent for the Central Intelligence Agency.

At one point, I got myself into trouble when I spoke against the Vietnam War at a rally sponsored by a Communist youth group at the University of Chile. Ralph Dungan, U.S. ambassador to Chile (Kennedy appointee), called me and another American, Peter Roman, into his office to express his outrage at us for speaking out against U.S. policy at a rally sponsored by Communist students. He said we should go home and run for Congress rather than criticize our own country. He threatened us with deportation and frankly he scared both of us, not into silence exactly, but he scared us for sure. I was on a scholarship and effectively dodging the draft, and I was afraid I would be drafted if my scholarship were canceled! In 1965, while in Chile, I also launched the international “Committee of Americans Abroad For An Honorable Foreign Policy.’  I had hoped to obtain enough signatures and money to buy an ad in the New York Times to express the point of view that U.S. military action in Vietnam was making people around the world hate the United States, but unfortunately my effort was not successful. I later obtained my file from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, wherein an informant described this effort as ‘recognizable Communist propaganda.’

I kept in touch with events in the U.S. by subscribing to the National Guardian and to New Left Notes, the newsletter of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). In Brazil, my sexual expression as a gay man became a big part of my life (I was in the stage of self-acceptance for the first time), and I also danced a lot, smoked a lot of pot, sun-bathed on the beach, and traveled widely, taking in everything I could, expanding my horizons. During this time, I had many articles published in the New York TImes and the Christian Science Monitor, and a few in European left-wing magazines such as the International Socialist Journal and New Left Review.

When I returned to the U.S. in the summer of 1967, I hunted for a job on both the East and West Coasts. I was in San Francisco for the famous Summer of Love, and I remember feeling rather confused. I smoked pot, but I wasn’t a hippie. I visited the Haight-Ashbury with a curious look in my eye, but I wasn’t a tourist with a camera. I saw hippies asking for money from mid-Westerners with cameras, much as I had seen Indians in Guatemala ask me for money to take their picture.  You know that line from the Bob Dylan song, “Something’s happening here, but you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?” Well, the truth is, I was no Mr. Jones. I had a pretty good idea that the hippies were rebelling against the status quo, and like me, they were for peace and they smoked pot. However, I also was in California to interview for a job at the Los Angeles Times, and my career ambitions and mentality made me pretty straight compared to the spaced out freaks on the streets of the Haight-Ashbury.

After landing a job as a reporter for the Washington Post, I was back on a fast track in my career. But the year was 1967. It was the year of “Battle of Algiers,” a movie about the commitment of radical, armed revolutionaries, also the year that Che Guevara died fighting in the jungles of Bolivia, the year the movement against the war in Vietnam achieved major advances especially the march on the Pentagon in October, and the year that the underground press spawned its own Liberation News Service. Uncomfortable in my role as a reporter for the establishment media, and increasingly aware of the limitations placed on me because I was gay (still secretly, at this time), I quit the Washington Post and began to work full-time in the underground press. I also became active as a member of Students for a Democratic Society and encouraged my friends to become involved in SDS, which I saw as leading the movement through its unfocused mixture of activism and vague leftist ideology.

My Old Left background motivated me in a couple of crucial areas. First, I did not feel comfortable with the pacifists who had an ideological bent against armed struggle and therefore did not entirely approve of the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam. I followed Lenin’s maxim that the ruling class would not give up power without a fight, though I was never quite sure how I could be a warrior in such a fight because many of my instincts were indeed pacifistic — that is, I hated violence and was somewhat cowardly. Second, I wanted to influence others toward a “complete” ideological program that involved socialist values, anti-racist principles, in other words, an all-purpose movement toward radical change and social justice.

I immersed myself full-time in SDS and LNS, living at first off money I had saved from scholarship and freelance journalism while in Latin America; later helping to developing a system of subsistence salaries for LNS staff ($35 a week salary plus meals bought with LNS money). LNS, by the way, raised a significant amount of money from left-wing sectors of Protestant churches. In retrospect, I think these Christians saw us as good-hearted young idealists working against war, while I think we saw them as an easy mark for money. We were lucky to get their money, and, as I think about it now, I regret that I didn’t interact more honestly with these good church people. I wonder why they were so generous to us; they must have read the LNS packets with occasionally crude rhetoric (calling cops “pigs” and glorifying violence in the Third World). I also regret not interacting more honestly with the Black Panthers, who hung around LNS from time to time because we had printing presses and did work for them at virtually no cost. We at LNS were proud to have the Panthers on our premises because they validated our politics; in fact, we knew little of them except as cardboard political figures, and I had liberal friends who had much deeper relationships with black people.

I saw myself as propaganda specialist for the New Left, even arguing that “propaganda” should be seen as something good, that is, propagating ideas and information that were being hidden by the establishment media, and encouraging people to demonstrate and take action — like the term ‘agitprop’ used in the Old Left. I served as a kind of press attaché at some national SDS meetings. There was a ‘giddy joy’ (a term used by my LNS colleague Nina Sabaroff) to a lot of what we did, but much of it was deadly serious. I don’t think I had a reputation for having a great sense of humor, but I do remember, somehow, a lot of laughs and fun and silliness. Communal living, travel and street actions helped to create a big part of this camaraderie.

An aside: four years of college, two years of graduate school, three years in Latin America, and three years of intensive involvement in the New Left — this adds up to 12 years of practically no television viewing. I don’t do well when people comment about “Gilligan’s Island” or “Leave it to Beaver.”

I went to many SDS meetings in New York and all over the United States — plus dozens of demonstrations. On two occasions in the late 1960s, I was arrested, once at Columbia University with 800 others during the April 1968 occupation, once on a New York City subway station platform when I intervened, with a friend, on behalf of a black man who was being unjustly arrested by a white police officer. I had many other opportunities to be arrested, at demonstrations where some people engaged in civil disobedience, but I declined to go through that again, doubting its value. I wasn’t particular sympathetic to the Catholic leftists who were constantly engaging in civil disobedience and getting themselves jailed. Later, in the 1970s, I was prepared to be arrested during a demonstration at the Seabrook, N.H., Nuclear Power Plant, but a deal was struck with the authorities and there were no arrests. In1980, I was arrested one more time — the charge was growing marijuana.

I once heard someone say, perhaps in the early 1970s, that the New Left was pretty much the same thing as the Old Left. We may have smoked pot and absorbed new issues, such as feminism and even gay liberation, but the dogmatism and the rigidity was reminiscent of Stalinism. I also heard people say, often, that my Marxism was “just like religion,” a charge that I absolutely hated, since I was so resolute in my atheism. But today I believe that leftists like myself were indeed a lot like religious zealots, with our union songs akin to hymns, our political chants reminiscent of prayers and our leftwing tracts not unlike the Bible.

Today, I no longer consider myself a Marxist or even a leftist. In 1969, I loved calling myself a “revolutionary communist,” but I don’t believe in either revolution or communism and I can’t think of any label I’m entirely comfortable with. Libertarians tend to be overly ideological in their views and liberals tend to be too predictable, while conservatives tend to be mean-spirited.  So I muddle through and try to be a good person, while avoiding the notion, once so dear to me, that life should be organized around a movement to change the world. I still believe in the need for change, but I don’t make it my mission in life. I have a house and garden and a circle of friends. I am enrolled in the Democratic Party,  and I belong to the American Civil Liberties Union, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and the Massachusetts Audubon Society. I do not regret the collapse of the Soviet Union, even though it has been a difficult adjustment for the people of Eastern Europe. I do not trust the people who still admire Fidel Castro or the Cuban Revolution, simply because I think there is no basis in fact for this admiration. While I am uncomfortable when people say that the U.S. “is the greatest country in the world,” I do admire a lot about this country, especially our Constitution. While I flirted with the idea of armed struggle and violent revolution for a while, I am glad my better instincts kept me out of the Weatherman faction of SDS (where many of my friends ended up). Confession time: I threw mud at mounted police during Nixon’s Counter-inaugural. That same night, outside the ball where Spiro Agnew was being feted, I ran toward a cop who had just arrested one of my co-demonstrators — I pulled with all my might to successfully free the demonstrator and I kicked the cop. Instead of armed struggle, I call it ‘legged struggle.’ I also practiced target shooting with a .22 for a while. That was the extent of my involvement with violence.

The crucial years in my political evolution away from leftwing hardliner were 1969-71, including the birth of the gay liberation movement and two trips I took to Cuba. In Cuba, I discovered (not in a well-lit moment, but gradually, with thought) that the revolution I loved so dearly was built on lies, repression and tyranny. The focal point for me was the persecution of gay men and lesbians in the Castro regime, but there was much more than that. The highly touted literacy campaign was a joke considering the powerful propaganda machine maintained by the government, featuring a lack of freedom of the press and the rote educational system where few questions could be asked, no doubts expressed.

In 1969 and 1970, I was part of a committee that formed the original SDS brigade, had my picture taken in the cane fields which appeared on a poster advertising the Venceremos Brigade, a group of Americans who went to Cuba to cut sugar cane in solidarity with Cuban workers, and I signed checks as the treasurer of the Venceremos Brigade organization.

All that changed quickly and I began to write and speak about the persecution of gay people in Cuba, which had adopted a Stalinist line and was engaged in serious repression of not only homosexuals, but also the Cuban variation of hippies, Jehovah’s Witnesses, black nationalists, Trostkyists and dissidents of all stripes.

My experience with gay liberation was exhilarating. I began to live with other gay men, and I made many gay friends, male and female, around the country. I was struck at the variety of people I met in the gay movement, especially the diversity in regard to race and class — more diversity than in the New Left, which was essentially a white middle-class intellectual or student phenomenon. As a gay activist, I participated in and helped organize many marches and demonstrations, and initially these were more frightening, psychologically at least, than anything I had done as an Old Leftist or a New Leftist. As an author and editor, I helped spread the word about gay oppression and liberation. Partly under the influence of psychedelic drugs that helped me get in touch with my love of nature, and partly in response to dogmatic tendencies emerging in the gay and lesbian movement, I left New York City and relocated in rural Massachusetts. There, I continue to spend some of my time in an activist frame of mind, but I have had a more ordinary life as a reporter and assistant editor of the Athol Daily News (circulation around 5,500) and later, the director of community relations for the 30-bed Athol Memorial Hospital.

From my upbringing in the Old Left, to my experience and adventures in the New Left and gay liberation, and finally to a more sedate life in a rural community — I look back and see more continuity than contradiction. I retain an ethical system of caring for and sharing with my fellow human beings that is at the core of socialism.

However, I realize stifling dogmatism or political correctness in today’s society, even within so-called progressive circles, reflect Old Left values, and these are inimical to me. Communist Party theoreticians had answers for everything, but now I am on the side of those who admit there may not be answers. I remember clearly that these same CP dogmatists spread the line that homosexuality was related to bourgeois decadence and could not be tolerated in a revolutionary society. These commissars analyzed each and every play, movie and painting to decide whether or not it served the interest of the proletariat or the bourgeoisie. Time and again, they were so sure of themselves. They intellectualized every move and every moment. Today, I don’t have to immerse myself in dogma. I’m more concerned about living in harmony with nature and being kind to friends, neighbors and family, than I am with feeling part of a self-congratulatory political movement.

The above essay is based on:

“Red Diaper Baby: From a Jewish Chicken Farm in the Catskillls, to the Cane Fields of Cuba, to the First Gay Protests in New York City”

Paper presented at the conference on the Sixties sponsored by Vietnam Generation, Inc. Eastern Connecticut State University, Danbury CT, Nov. 5, 1994.

(Allen Young, Liberation News Service, 1967-70; Gay Liberation Front, 1970-71.)

Copyright © 1994 by Allen Young

23 Comments »

  1. What a great read! Thanks for posting it!

    Comment by Antonis — May 6, 2009 @ 7:58 pm

  2. When Louis asked me if he could post this, I was happy to cooperate. Diversity of opinion is a good thing.
    Regarding Palestine and Israel, my views are rather close to those of a new and rapidly growing pro-peace, pro-Israel lobby group called J Street. I urge readers of this blog to look at the J Street web site and consider supporting this organization — which currently backs the initiatives being taken by the Obama-Biden administration.

    Comment by Allen Young — May 6, 2009 @ 8:19 pm

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  4. What a great joy the lecture of this essay. I enjoyed very much the fact that perhaps for the very first time I’ve been able to put into perspective the life of one of my dearest and oldest friends. I’ve been in a way, witness to Allen’s evolution from the time when we first met in Havana, more than thirty years ago, to today; and he’s been and still is, one of the most interesting people I’ve ever met.

    Comment by Octavio Zuaznabar — May 7, 2009 @ 4:11 pm

  5. “the American Labor Party, considered a front group for the Communist Party (though the term ‘front group’ was essentially a hostile epithet that was rejected by my parents)”

    I thought front was a word used by the CP, such as “popular front”, which was fairly benign, although in the bourgeois hegemony’s mind any front including the CP was always led by or manipulated by the CP. The same would go with cell – a fairly innocuous CP term, the cells making up the body of the party, however the bourgeois press always imagining CP cells to be engaged in sabotage, espionage and other -age’s. And so on.

    Comment by Lance Murdoch — May 7, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

  6. Very interesting life, much different background from mine,and I had no idea where I would end up, certainly not as an glbt activist, but he seems to have known.

    Two things I think he is right about, when groujps/causes get in trouble, they turnagainst themselves, cannibalize. The Republicans seem to be doing that now.

    And we have to be careful of some people with “problems” who turn to non-conformingt groups, and often hurt us.

    But he and I have ended up living quiet lives in smaller towns. Emailing. And tryhing to pt what we thought and did in perspective. My influence was from Don Slater, not from college professors or church people.

    Comment by Billy Glover — May 7, 2009 @ 7:10 pm

  7. With a few admittedly crucial alterations here and there regarding politics, sexuality & rural life — this essay could easily be the autobiography of Christopher Hitchens.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — May 8, 2009 @ 3:37 am

  8. There have been quite a few changes in Cuba since 1994 in the way LGBT people are treated by the Cuban government. I’m not aware of anyplace that’s a paradise for gay people. Cuba isn’t that, but today the Cuban government basically leaves gays alone and it has been celebrating World Anti-Homophobia day as a public event for the past two years. Presumably it will again this year as well.

    Many of these can be tracked here:
    http://www.walterlippmann.com/lgbt-cuba.html

    Comment by Walter Lippmann — May 8, 2009 @ 12:55 pm

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  10. Walter Lippman (see his comment above), who apparently spends a lot of his time as an apologist for the failed and tyrannical Castro regime, is entitled to his opinion, but the status of gay people in Cuba, and the issue of human rights in Cuba, remain of great concern to me. What does Lippman have to say about the detention of dissidents in Cuba — people jailed because of their fervent wish for democracy and basic civil liberties, who are accused with no evidence of being “agents” of the U.S. — and about the horrible prison conditions? (Will he say that prisoners in the U.S. also suffer, as if that is a valid response.) Have openly-gay Cubans been welcomed into the Cuban Communist Party, which still runs the country? Can Cubans see the films “Improper Conduct” and “Nobody Listened,” about the lack of basic freedoms in their country? Can they read any of the many books written by Cuban exiles critical of the Castro regime? (I’m not talking about right-wingers but rather people who once supported the Cuban Revolution and become disillusioned, just like me.) Has Lippman himself seen those films or read those books?

    Comment by Allen Young — May 8, 2009 @ 2:56 pm

  11. 2 Questions for Allan Young:

    In the late 80s I met a grad student fluent in Portugese who travelled to Brazil to gather data for her disseration. She polled homeless women squatting in tin shacks on the outskirts of Sao Paulo, Brazil. One of the poll questions was, if given a choice, what kind of society would these women prefer: one in which their rights were as they currently existed, they had the right to sell their labor (or body) and were free to jump onto a soapbox and preach whatever popped into their head; or a society in which basic human needs were rights, housing, medicine, employment, education, etc, but preaching on a soapbox could get you arrested.

    The 1st question for Allen is: how would you guess those polls turned out?

    The second question for Allen is: how does the J Street Group you mention address the charge of abject hypocrisy when you apparently believe that the US, Russia, Israel, India, & Pakistan have the right to bear nuclear arms but Iran does not?

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — May 9, 2009 @ 4:55 pm

  12. I do not choose to reply to the highly loaded questions asked by Karl Friedrich. He is certainly entitled to his viewpoint expressed above, which seems to favor or make excuses for those who arrest speakers on soapboxes as well as for the mullahs who rule Iran while hating Jews and homosexuals.

    Comment by Allen Young — May 9, 2009 @ 6:20 pm

  13. That’s the pathetic, hypocritical, Zionist response I expected from an ex-leftist rural idiot.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — May 9, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

  14. Re: Comment 10. It’s true Cuba has a tyrannical regime. But the tyranny only applies to the exploiters, capitalists, racists and those who would sell the national patrimony for a pocket full of change.

    Comment by dave — May 9, 2009 @ 8:14 pm

  15. I’ve tried twice to respond to Allen Young’s attack on me, Note Number 10 above, but it doesn’t seem to get posted to this blog. Are my postings here moderated?

    Comment by Walter Lippmann — May 9, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

  16. Before I get to the the areas where I don’t agree, I’d like to say first that I enjoyed reading Allen Young’s discussion of his personal, family and political evolution as the child of Communist Party members coming of age in the 1950s and 1960s. His account is informative and well-written. It’s unfortunate that those of us who had a different experience, such as going through the Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party, have produced so meager a literature of reminiscences of those times. From that perspective, Allen Young’s recollections are of value, in my view, from that point of view.

    Alas, Allen Young, a former leftist now moved toward the soft right, paints quite the dreary political self-portrait in contribution Number 10 above. Of course I don’t agree with Allen Young’s assessment that Cuba is run by the “failed and tyrannical Castro regime”, so presumably Young agrees with Washington and the rightist exiles on that.

    Allen Young is too lazy to even spell the name of someone he’s attacking correctly (he’s not the first and won’t be the last). But he stubbornly refuses to acknowledge even ONE of the many changes which have actually taken place since he visited Cuba and had a bad experience so many decades ago. He who refuses to face facts continues peddling the sad stories he began spinning in his little 112 page booklet GAYS UNDER THE CUBAN REVOLUTION, published by the Gay Fox Press of San Francisco in 1981. It’s as if Young were frozen in a time-warp. But time has moved in, in Cuba if not in Allen Young’s idea of Cuba.

    Now he’s recycling his unhappy memoirs of 1994, here in 2009, still joyfully oblivious to the many changes which have taken place on the island in recent DECADES. Facts are stubborn things, and any interested people will find them if they look a bit. Mark Twain said that a lie goes halfway around the world while the truth is getting its boots on. Perhaps this helps explain the persistent recycling of Allen Young’s tired old stories.

    In addition to Allen Young’s sad tale, there are better, more balanced treatments, such as Ian Lumsden’s MACHOS, MARICONES AND GAYS (1996) and others one can find with a quick Google search.

    Yes, I’ve seen IMPROPER CONDUCT and read Reinaldo Arenas. I saw the movie in which Javier Bardem played Arenas as well. It is part of the work anyone interested needs to do to be informed of many things about Cuba and to read widely among the literature of the opponents of the Cuban Revolution. Allen Young’s writings are part of a small but significant literature of that type: former leftists who’ve joined Washington’s propaganda bandwagon against Cuba. Allen Young isn’t the first and won’t be the last, of course.

    Though Allen Young asserts that there is no evidence that the jailed Cuban oppositionists of 2003 were paid agents of Washington, in fact, the brief trials did bring out quite a bit of evidence, much of which was published in a book called THE DISSIDENTS, which anyone can read here:
    http://www.redandgreen.org/Cuba/Disidents/index.html

    More on an earlier crop of dissidents can be found here:
    http://www.granma.cu/documento/ingles/012-i.html

    Being a paid agent of a hostile foreign power isn’t legal in any country on earth, of course. Cuba is no exception, though its treatment of such opponents is relatively mild. Ask Yoani Sanchez, who’s evidently never spent a minute in a Cuban jail, though she’s obviously an implacable opponent of the Cuban government. Ask Marta Beatriz Roque, ask Oscar Espinosa Chepe, convicted and jailed briefly in 2003, then released on medical parole and still actively attacking the Cuban government through the international media.

    What would the United States government do to someone who’d accused of being an agent of a hostile foreign power? Check out the applicable US legislation through the years:
    http://www.walterlippmann.com/docs036.html

    Here’s a recent video presentation responding to the anti-Cuban campaign about the supposed persecution of gays on the island. It’s in Spanish, was produced in Spain, but I’ve provided an English translation of the intro and a link to the video itself:
    http://www.walterlippmann.com/docs1536.html

    While I’m a strong supporter of the Cuban Revolution, I make no claims that it’s a perfect or ideal place, for gays or anyone else. Though I’m not aware of any perfect places, I never claim that Cuba is. There are no autonomous LGBT organizations and institutions in Cuba, I readily admit and candidly report.

    Indeed, I’ve often felt and written that Cuba would do well to more openly incorporate LGBT people into Cuban society, though forms similar to PFLAG (Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays), the advocacy group active here in the United States of America. I wrote about that at some length in a long essay some years ago:
    TWO MONTHS IN CUBA
    http://www.walterlippmann.com/two-months.html
    (the part about gays is on the fourth page of the essay)

    Allen Young echoes Washington on political prisoners. Just today Ricardo Alarcon, the President of Cuba’s National Assembly, responded to all that on CNN.
    Here’s the link to Alarcon’s response on that:
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/05/09/intv.cuba.alarcon.cnn?iref=videosearch

    None of this can be expected to convince someone like Allen Young who refuses to acknowledge any of the changes in Cuba in recent years. Those who are interested will find a good deal of such material, including even links to hostile writers like Allen Young, at the page which I maintain to track these developments. At this page you’ll find friendly and sympathetic materials, but hostile ones as well, including earlier stupid comments by Fidel Castro made in the 1960s and 1970s, but also Fidel Castro’s later and better opinions on these matters:

    http://www.walterlippmann.com/lgbt-cuba.html

    Walter Lippmann
    Los Angeles, California
    http://www.walterlippmann.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaNews/

    Comment by Walter Lippmann — May 9, 2009 @ 11:32 pm

  17. After reading Proyect’s excellent articles here on George Orwell, it’s fair to say Orwell & Allen Young had similar political trajectories, albeit in different periods of revolution & reaction in the 20th Century.

    Orwell dodged bullets in Spain and was scorned by Stalin’s perfidy. Young dodged the remnants of McCarthyism in the Venceremos Brigades and was scorned by revolutionary Cuba strangled by US Imperialism.

    Orwell became a snitch who volunteered names. Young became a Zionist hypocrit who if asked wouldn’t hesitate to name names so long as it didn’t infringe on his ability to harmonize with nature. As far his expressed goal of being nice to his neighbors, that of course presumes Young’s neighbors weren’t renditioned to Gitmo or blacklisted after being dragged in front of a HUAC tribunal.

    Consistent with the Obama signs undoubtedly displayed last fall in the yard of his cozy rural farmhouse, this curious variety of pacifist quietly applauds Predator drones vaporizing Pakistani toilers and Peshtuni tribespeople, all the while denying Iran the right to bear the same arms its adversaries do.

    If he were asked tomorrow by the White House to do a NY Times Op Ed supporting Obama’s policies of trillion dollar corporate bailouts he’d do it, for Obama.

    While this erstwhile pacifist tacitly supports Obama’s troop escalation in Afghanistan he goes out of his way to condemn Cuba as a failure on the Unrepentant Marxist blog. Talk about an apologist!

    In the end Young’s critique of Stalinism fails in the same way George Orwell’s critique of Stalinism from the left did, with the difference being Young’s not even on the left anymore, much to his poor parent’s chagrin. Fortunately for this atheist there’s no afterlife for them to be ashamed of him in.

    Proyect’s superb earlier blogs about Orwell’s perfidious political evolution on this forum will bear this thesis out and should be re-read by all interested in this debate.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — May 10, 2009 @ 5:36 am

  18. Cuban gays dance conga against homophobia
    By ANDREA RODRIGUEZ – 1 hour ago

    PHOTO:
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g5dPDKuMf2FEEdHkl5GlbQaFikKQD987GLPG1 (photo)

    HAVANA (AP) — President Raul Castro’s daughter led hundreds of Cuban gays in a street dance Saturday to draw attention to gay rights on the island.

    Participants formed a carnival-style conga line around two city blocks to beat the of drums, accompanied by costumed stilt-walkers. Events also included educational panels and presentations for books, magazines and CDs about gay rights and sexual diversity.

    “We’re calling on the Cuban people to participate … so that the revolution can be deeper and include all the needs of the human being,” said Mariela Castro, an outspoken gay rights advocate who directs Cuba’s officially sanctioned Sex Education Center.

    Attending the program’s opening, Parliament speaker President Ricardo Alarcon said that Cuba has advanced in recent years in the area of gay rights.

    The communist government discriminated against homosexuals — even sending some to work camps — in the early years of the 1959 revolution led by Mariela Castro’s uncle Fidel. But tolerance of homosexuality on the island has grown in recent years.

    Duan Mena, 29, said was great to celebrate his homosexuality in public without fear of censure.

    Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

    Comment by Walter Lippmann — May 16, 2009 @ 8:03 pm

  19. Third attempt – I am now convinced that this site is being censored!
    I am a trans person who recently went to Cuba (April-May 2009) a little more recently than the self styled radical who spouts so much ant-semitism here. Remember Allen, the Palestinians are semites, too! And so much right wing criticism of Cuba! Go to Cuba NOW, Allen! don’t rely on your drug induced memories of the days before the CIA owned you.
    Marie

    Comment by Marie Little — June 17, 2009 @ 7:00 am

  20. Apparently, it is a reference to my own blog that is the problem, so here is a quote from by blog (apparently the picture can’t make it through the censor either):
    Well, I mentioned’ in the last post, that I was going to visit CENESEX in Havana. I did.
    I was in Cuba from April 25 to May 8. Not quite believing what I was told by the tour organizer (that I would be fine as Marie on the streets of Havana), I only brought a pair of jeans and two blouses with me – mistake.
    First thing in the morning on April 28, our group went to CENESEX And had a long meeting with one of the psychologists. No one: hotel staff, other guests, fellow travellers, bus driver, translator, or any of the staff at CENESEX had any reaction to my presence among them (except the occassional compliment).
    As I expected, the meeting discussion at the meeting went all over the map. Many of the others in the group didn’t seem to realize what the mandate of CENESEX was and asked questions relating to all kinds of other issues. (I have much of that meeting on video, if anyone is ever sufficiently bored!) However my appearance, and my credentials as a trade unionist and a member of the steering committee did get me an invitation to come back after the rest of the group had returned to North America.
    For the rest of day, I carried on with the tour. Lunch at a nice restaurant, (wjere I used the Womens’s washroom – with no complaint by eiter the management or other patrons), the art gallery (joining a tour being led by a flambouyantly gay guide), and finally with just a couple of friends some shopping at the crafts market in old Havana where I bought some nice jewelry. Back to the hotel and a shower, then a quick supper. Such was my first day – as Marie – in Havana.
    As I said, I had foolishly brought only a small wardrobe, so it was back to ‘DRAB’ (Dressed As a Boy) for the rest of the official tour including Mayday. I had thought that we would march to the Office of American Interests on Mayday – a rather long walk as I recall from Mayday 2001 – so I didn’t present as Marie for that. Much as I would have liked to. The boots I had brought were just not made for that kind of walking! As we didn’t – the demostration staying in the area around the Plaza (perhaps to give Obama some political space to do the right thing) – I was kicking myself when it was over. To be trans on Mayday in Havana would have been a dream come true!
    The following Tuesday, having moved from hotel to the apartment my friend and I had rented, it was back to CENESEX by cab this time. I had found a translator since I was sure that my spanish would not be good enough for the interview with the deputy director. It turned out that Teresa was a lesbian and knew quite a few people in the GBLT community in Havana – including some of the people who worked at CENESEX.
    The interview went well, although I was requested not to record it on video. CENESEX, and Cuba, are using essentially the protocols laid down by the World Professional Association for Transgender Health – the same as are applied in British Columbia. Not a big surprise there – a world class medical system using world standards.
    A few things the deputy director said did jar with me, though. She seemed to be somewhat stuck in a ‘binary’ gender model and the things I had asked Teresa to tell her about myself seemed to confuse her. During a break in the ‘formal interview’, when we got a little off topic and chatted about me, she wondered if I was a ‘lesbian trapped in a male body’! I told her that was not quite true, but closer to the mark than some North American psychologists would come, she was relieved and confused at the same time.
    Well, time was pressing, CENESEX runs a drop-in centre for trans people in Havana rather like the ones I go to on Thursdays in Vancouver except theirs meet on Tuesdays. I could see the people gathering on the veranda and she eventually asked to be excused since she was the facilitator for the group. As I had gotten answers to pretty well all of the questions I had, I agreed to end the interview – with the request that I be introduced to the group. She enthusiatically agreed to this and introduced me to about 15 to 20 ‘Male to Female’ trans people to whom I said a few words about how things were progressing in Canada.
    One of the people gathered, however, was not to be put off with just that much. It turned out that Angelie, who worked as a cleaner at CENESEX – having gotten off ‘the streets by having that job, knew Teresa ‘from the community. She slipped away from the group for a moment, before we left and invited us to go to a drag show at a gay club on Thursday so we could talk some more.
    More on Angelie and the drag show next time…
    When we got back to central Havana I took Teresa to the ‘Patio Bar’ at the Habana Libre hotel (normally out of her price range – but across the street from my apartment) to chat about events and the invitation.
    Needless to say, the Patio Bar was not out of my price league and my friend and I had been there many times – often enough that one waitress recognized us and usually brought our drinks without our having to order. This time I had to flag her down, though. When she got close enough to see my face learly and heard my voice as I ordered, she said (freely translating), “Oh! It’s you! Right away, sir – I mean, madam!”
    So much for trans/homo-phobia in Havana!

    The photo was taken by Teresa in the ‘Patio Bar’ at the Habana LIbre

    Comment by Marie Little — June 17, 2009 @ 7:09 am

  21. Why would I even bother to read a comment by a person who says, merely because of a political disagreement, and without a shred of evidence, that the CIA “owns” me? I have zero respect for individuals who use the Internet to make hostile, extremely unpleasant comments to people they do not know. This is not the way to have a discussion, to communicate, or to change anyone’s point of view.

    Comment by Allen Young — June 20, 2009 @ 1:49 pm

  22. Allen. You’re no longer relevant to the world hidden away in your little retreat. Your denial of the holocaust perpetrated in the West Bank & Gaza means your own personal energy has transmogrified from a force of good in the world to bad. Your only savior is a thorough repudiation of Zionism.

    Comment by Karl Friedrich — June 20, 2009 @ 4:27 pm

  23. I apologize for the ‘owned’ comment, Allen! It was late at night and I was frustrated by the internet eating my two previous attempts at making a post.
    Having said that, though, surely you can understand the other frustration that people who are still trying to move the world forward feel when people on the right trot out their ‘radical credentials’ to justify their attacks on the progress that the rest of us are making. It can sometimes result in our making possibly undeserved remarks aboout the reasons for their convergence of opinion with the forces of reaction.

    Now, back to the discussion of Cuba – today?

    If this thing will allow me to insert a link, I will refer you to an article written by a gay american lawyer who was on the organized part of the trip. He doesn’t talk about GBLT issues – just more generally about the Cuban situation.

    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13886

    If you can get over your pique, I would be interested in how you justify your continued attacks on Cuba in view his remarks and my experience aa a trans person in Cuba.

    Comment by Marie Little — June 20, 2009 @ 6:00 pm


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