I just got off the phone with Jeff, an old friend from college who described himself as disgusted with Obama’s interview with Keith Olbermann on the MSNBC Countdown show. He saw Obama’s performance as smacking of just the kind of superiority and condescension that the Republicans were trying to cynically exploit-turning the contest into a referendum on “who you would want to drink beer with”, just as was the case in the 2004 election.
I should add that my friend is a longtime Nation Magazine subscriber who plans to vote for Obama. His views were shared by Richard, another friend of ours from college, who posted the following comment underneath one of my blog postings on Obama:
C’mon now, who cares what Obama does or says between now and November, IF HE GETS ELECTED! He’s not the “lesser” in this race. Consider, for example, the Supreme Court. The Next President will probably name 3 or 4 Justices. Do I have to ask? What about the thousands of federal office holders, throughout all the federal regulatory agencies? Can you really believe Obama will appoint the same people McCain will? American elections are all about WINNING. We don’t have a Parliamentary system. It’s WINNER TAKE ALL in the USA. The choice is Obama or McCain. Is that really hard to make?
Not only did Richard share Jeff’s take on Obama, so did Jeff’s friend Iris who actually went out to Ohio as an Obama volunteer. I would describe the mood of all three, from what Jeff told me, as one of despair over Obama’s unwillingness to take the fight to the Republicans.
Obama’s interview with Olbermann will be accessible on the Countdown transcript page either later today or tomorrow morning. Since I have access to Lexis-Nexis, I couldn’t resist taking a look at what Obama had to say, since it had such a dismaying effect on 3 of his supporters.
When Olbermann asks Obama if Palin is experienced enough and qualified enough to become president of the United States in the relatively short-term future, he refuses to go for the jugular about her totally unacceptable ultra-right positions and offers up bromides like this instead:
You know, those are going to be I think the issues that ultimately matter to the voters, and that’s why I’m trying to offer to them a very clear set of prescriptions, very clear ideas about what we intend to do, how we want to change the tax code, stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship jobs overseas, give 95 percent of Americans tax relief.
Have an energy policy that is serious about climate change, is serious about weaning ourselves off of Middle Eastern oil, investing in solar and wind and biodiesel so we’ve got energy independence and creating jobs here in the United States, having a health care system that makes sure that we don’t have 47 million people without health insurance.
This is exactly the kind of bloodless, policy wonk type message that has been delivered up by Democratic Party candidates going back to Jimmy Carter. The refusal to attack their opponents with the same kind of vehemence that they are attacked fosters the impression that the Democrats are brie-eating losers from the Eastern Seaboard. Olbermann makes it clear that another approach is required:
I mean, sixty years ago Harry Truman went out and campaigned very simply, looked out at people in trouble because of a Republican Congress at that point and the impact it had on their lives and he said, “How many more times do you have to be hit over the head until you figure out who’s hitting you?” I mean, has your campaign in some way not kept it that simple?
As I tried to explain to my friend Jeff earlier today, Obama will not take the brass knuckles approach of an FDR, a Harry Truman or even LBJ-the last of the New Deal politicians-because the Democratic Party has lost its class moorings. Through the 1960s, the trade unions were a powerful constituency of the Democratic Party. With the steady erosion of industries that provided the kinds of union jobs of the past, the Democrats have become much more of a middle-class party. With relatively well-off constituents in the “New Economy”, the Democrats do not feel the need to go into the trenches to fight for jobs and social benefits. The typical Democratic candidate for President today is a policy wonk like Obama, who reminds me more and more of Michael Dukakis.
If the performance on Countdown could be described as lackluster, it was far worse on the O’Reilly show where Obama tried to mollify the right-wing FOX-TV audience. Part one of the interview can be read here. It starts off with Obama showing that he is ready to “bring it on” with the terrorists, just as long as we don’t attack the wrong country.
O’REILLY: OK. Let’s start with national security. Do you believe we’re in the middle of a War on Terror?
OBAMA: Absolutely.
O’REILLY: Who’s the enemy?
OBAMA: Al Qaeda, the Taliban, a whole host of networks that are bent on attacking America, who have a distorted ideology, who have perverted the faith of Islam, and so we have to go after them.
Considering the news this week about dozens of Afghan children ending up as “collateral damage” in a bombing raid, one might have hoped that the Democratic candidate might have ratcheted down the war propaganda a bit. No such luck.
When O’Reilly keeps pressing Obama to admit that the surge “worked”, he finally has to admit: “Bill, what I’ve said is – I’ve already said it succeed beyond our wildest dreams.” Since Obama’s opposition to the war in Iraq has always been based on the criterion of whether it is the “wrong” war, it is to be expected that he would fall in line around the surge. No Democrat has had the guts to denounce the American occupation on grounds other than it is a waste of the taxpayer’s money, so naturally they will always appear to be indistinguishable from the Republicans on the all-important question of principle. No American presidential candidate since George McGovern has made the obvious point that the U.S. has no right to act as the world’s policeman, least of all the ever-so-cautious Barack Obama.

I still believe Obama is a winner in this Electoral Vote contest. Forget the popular vote and all the silly polls. They are meaningless. The next president (as with all the past ones) will be decided in the Electoral College. But, based on Obama’s performance, he apparently is so certain he will win he has decided not to fight like a man. American voters don’t trust a candidate who won’t stand up for himself. When he joined the race for President, nearly two years ago, Obama moved like a high-stakes poker player. He went “all in” against the strongest political machine in America – the Clintons. And he won his gamble, got the nomination. However, after watching him on MSNBC and following his campaign activities lately, Obama now seems to be playing “not to lose” rather than fighting fiercely to win. The last three Democrats to take this approach: Dukakis, Gore and Kerry. The next President will name 3 Supreme Court Justices, perhaps as early as his first six months in office, and there’s a good chance he’ll name a fourth later on. President Obama or President McCain (or president palin?) will determine the direction of the Court for the next thirty to forty years. Nothing else they do while in office will be as important. How dumb are the Democrats that they don’t shout this as loud as they can, everywhere – everyday? If the difference between the Democrats and the Republicans will be tiny and insignificent on most issues of public policy, here is one place where the difference is vast and of tremendous importance. Obama may still win easily, but he’s toying with disaster with his pussy-style campaign.
Comment by Richard Greener — September 9, 2008 @ 5:53 pm
The class and race politics of this election have been truly fascinating. First of all, this concept of a “middle class” that both candidates explicitly name as their constuency…in a strict (would one say vulgar?) Marxist analysis, the middle class is either quite small (essentially middle-management) or non-existent between the twin forces of the bourgeoisie and the proletariat. Why that term? Is it safer than….I don’t know what? I’d love to know more about when this term came to be utilized in political discourse, and what conditions made it supercede other types of class discourse.
The republicans figured out a long time ago that they could use class resentment against their opponents in the form of the culture war–this is is the subject of Thomas Frank’s “What’s the matter with Kansas?”, one of the best books on modern politics I’ve ever read. The democrats, mostly due to the intervention of the DLC, chose to eject working class, racial, and union policies from its platform in an attempt to woo elite voters and their deep pocketbooks. Given the profound economic and social crises that seem to have arisen from these decisions, and the violent economic policies that accompanied one would think that either a radical third party, or a left/progressive element in the democratic party would step up with some harsh language and powerful statements on this…I’m still unclear why this hasn’t happened.
Secondly, Obama is caught in a difficult bind of having to appear black in a multi-cultural sense, but not in a historical sense, i.e. not “angry” black. I think that you’re right about him going “policy wonk”, but that rather than that being a democratic party choice, it’s also tied up in the attempts to manage his image away from being an angry black man. That’s part of what the whole Reverend Wright fiasco was about–distancing Obama from a black radical tradition, which has historically been rooted in the church.
I am really interested in the movement around Barack Obama, which I don’t exactly understand, but seems to be Bonapartism, for all intents and purposes. Maybe enough excitement will force Obama’s pragmatic politics to accept social and economic reforms, but history doesn’t give that too much of a chance.
I’m still not sure if I’m going to hold my nose and vote for him, cast a futile vote for cynthia mckinney, or just stay home.
Comment by whenelvisdied — September 9, 2008 @ 6:14 pm
Hey, hey, it’s okay.
He’s having lunch with Bill today!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/team-obama-plans-lunch-with-clinton-to-plot-fightback-923488.html
“The campaign team behind Barack Obama has been regrouping after 10 days of media fascination with Republican vice-presidential pick Sarah Palin, dispatching Hillary Clinton into Florida and advertising a lunch summit this week between their candidate and Bill Clinton.”
Comment by Linda J — September 9, 2008 @ 8:17 pm
Hey Dick Greener, isn’t the campaign closer to LIMP DICK than “pussy-style”? The only “pussy” in the game is winning the popularity contest.
Your sexist comment is part of reason the broad left can’t attack this crazy and ignorant Republican ticket.
Comment by Y.K. — September 9, 2008 @ 8:37 pm
Mr. or Ms. Y.K. – My “sexist comment” is clearly understood by everyone, including you. Language is for communicating, not for politics.
Comment by Richard Greener — September 9, 2008 @ 10:25 pm
Today Mr. Obama held forth favorably on the subject of merit pay for teachers. Whether that will offset the endorsement he was just handed by the National Education Association, which claims to oppose this sort of union busting horse shit when republicans propose it, remains to be seen. But I’m sure whatever plate Mr. Obama chooses to shit on will be eagerly bussed by our so-called leadership.
Comment by Michael Hureaux — September 10, 2008 @ 12:51 am
I can’t prove this, but I believe the Dems want to win, but not to have a mandate. With a mandate, they’ll have to do something.
Comment by Renegade Eye — September 10, 2008 @ 2:23 am
Obama can’t go for the jugular, because his whole appeal lies in this notion of change, of being better than his opponents, of not giving in to the same old tired mudslinging Washington politics. that’s what he got Joe Biden for.
Comment by Martin Wisse — September 10, 2008 @ 5:50 am
Parts 1 and 2 of the Olbermann interview.
I thought Obama showed a little bit of fight in his (exceedingly long) acceptance speech in Denver, but I guess I was wrong. His capitulation on the surge was somewhat of a surprise to me – he refused to repeat the media mantra that “the surge has worked” up until he got on O’reilly’s show. The smart thing would’ve been to say (from a pro-imperialist point of view) there’s no right way to fight the wrong war.
As for your friend, I wrote an article addressing his lesser-evil argument, which I hope you will read even if your friend doesn’t. Unless someone has a time machine, there’s no way to know who Obama will appoint to what, what country he will bomb, etc, so there’s no real way of knowing who the “lesser evil” really is. There are a lot of things a Democrat can do and say that a Republican can’t. Just look at Obama’s attack on black fathers on Father’s Day. If McCain had tried that, the reaction he would’ve gotten from the audience would’ve made him wish he was back in the Hanoi Hilton.
Comment by Binh — September 10, 2008 @ 6:10 am
It is not just that the Democrats refused to go for the jugular on Palin’s policies, but that instead they attacked her for being too common – ‘this stewardess’ as Bill Maher said. The Democrats natural instinct is contempt for the working class, who are in their minds to be governed, not governed by. Though Palin is manufacturing her lowly credentials, the Dems fell right into the trap and attacked her for having too many children, having a daughter who was pregnant, hunting and all those other things that strike them as just too low class to deserve a seat in Washington. Her populism strikes a chord because it shows up their elitism.
Comment by James Heartfield — September 10, 2008 @ 8:23 am
What James Heartfield’s comment shows is that the concept of working class has been emptied of all meaning and should be put out to grass.
If elitism means only the ability to think through simple issues without prodding from one spinner or the other, we should scrap that concept as well.
Comment by Peter Byrne — September 10, 2008 @ 9:15 am
James Heartfield has a point.
Can somebody speak to my first comment? I think the Dems want to win, but not by enough to get a mandate. Can that be proven?
Comment by Renegade Eye — September 10, 2008 @ 3:36 pm
Sure, Obama is the paradigm of the 21st-century New Economy bourgeois technocrat. And sure, he’s not all that different from the “machine” campaigns to come out of the left in the last decade, with the pro-market eggheads and focus group psychologists. The main difference is that he’s an exciting and well-organized enough candidate to mobilize the yuppie infrastructure that’s been built up since 2003 to his advantage. Whether or not it will be a decisive advantage will remain to be seen. Obama is replaceable. We will see more of his kind. It could be this year, it will be 4 years from now at the latest. I’m going to vote for him simply because we might as well get it over with.
I’m still very confused by the number of leftists I’ve encountered who see the Obama campaign as something genuinely revolutionary. They even use that word. They say that the Obama “movement” can be revolutionary even if the candidate himself is not. And that might be true in some case, but is there any reason to think it’s true here? Has anyone actually done an analysis of what’s going on in his volunteer groups and campaign offices?
Comment by Dave — September 10, 2008 @ 4:03 pm
“The Dems don’t want a mandate?” A mandate in American electoral politics is like crying in baseball. We run a Winner-Take-All political system. George. W. Bush got 47% of the vote in 2000. Gore got 48%. For the 4th time in our history, we “elected” a President who lost the popular vote. Mandate? What is that? Bush, not Al Gore, became President in 2001! You call that a mandate? Maybe not, but the guy started a war – two of them! – after he “lost” his election. And you think the Democrats need a mandate for anything? Our elections are easy to read – you win, you get EVERYTHING! You lose, you disappear into the wallpaper.
Comment by Richard Greener — September 10, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
Dear Y.K.,
What is this calling R. Greener a “dick?” And what exactly do you mean by the “broad left?” Are you insinuating that there is a left without broads? And while we are at it, how do you defend your use of the word “broad” in any context, let alone personal orientation on the left? In doing battle it is apparently difficult to avoid unconsciously mimicking our enemy. Still, it is a tendency against which we must all strive.
Comment by J. Marlin — September 10, 2008 @ 6:51 pm
“The Dems don’t want a mandate?” A mandate in American electoral politics is like crying in baseball. We run a Winner-Take-All political system. George. W. Bush got 47% of the vote in 2000. Gore got 48%. For the 4th time in our history, we “elected” a President who lost the popular vote. Mandate? What is that? Bush, not Al Gore, became President in 2001! You call that a mandate? Maybe not, but the guy started a war – two of them! – after he “lost” his election. And you think the Democrats need a mandate for anything? Our elections are easy to read – you win, you get EVERYTHING! You lose, you disappear into the wallpaper.
When the Democrats win elections, they cave in to the GOP (see Clinton on welfare for reform for example). When they lose elections, they cave in to the GOP (vote for Roberts, Alito, Patriot Act, various wars, etc). No matter what happens, the Democratic Party says it has to move to the right. Either way, the ruling class wins and we lose in this winner-take-all system.
I think Renegade Eye’s point is that the Democrats would love to have power without responsibility. They want to win the election but not by a big enough margin that people will expect (or get up and fight for) real change.
Comment by Binh — September 10, 2008 @ 6:58 pm
Up here in the great frozen north we say the Liberal Party (sort of the equivalent of the Dems wing of the ruling class party) runs elections from the left (centre) and governs from the right. Might I suggest your Democrats also run elections from the left (centre right) and govern from the right.
Comment by belgish — September 10, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Anybody can see that the only “revolution” that will be generated by the Obama forces is semantic interpretation of the word. When some say revolution, they mean overturn of this corporate bullshit we live with. When others say it, they mean “let’s run around in circles and ignore the patently obvious”. Obama’s “forces” will do more than stuff envelopes and get out the vote for their candidate. If that’s a revolution, let me off when the calliope stops.
Comment by Michael Hureaux — September 10, 2008 @ 10:50 pm
I was elated about the Obama candidacy, but not because he represented great change. He is a dye-in-the-wool booster of US capital, trained at one of the centers of free-market thought. His advisors are even more deeply committed to that line. My enthusiasm arose from the hope that he would raise expectations among the young, so much so that they would push him to a more progressive position after his election. Instead, the GOP with its Palin selection has successfully lowered expectations so that no one will demand anything beyond imperialist warfare shrouded in religious and nationalist propaganda. I have just about lost any hope that the election will energize progressive forces. Now, I have returned to my long-held belief that only catastrophe (economic or military) can possibly push Americans to a more progressive position. Of course, they are more more likely to become fascist and ultimately self-destructive under such circumstances. Yet, I am willing to accept that risk, if for no other reason than to see US capitalism brought to its knees, and with it the millions who compose that social system. As things are shaping up, I might get to see that scenario play out, e.g. Lehman, AIG, Merrill Lynch, WAMU, Wachovia, trillions of Frannie and Freddie debt on the US books.
Comment by John J. Crocitti — September 13, 2008 @ 6:12 pm
He can’t go for the jugular because he can’t afford to play “the Angry Black Man,” whereas you could probably get McCain’s dental records from Obama’s leg. For the record, I consider them both reprehensible. I can’t vote for Obama but rather against McCain.
Comment by darknessatnoon — October 9, 2008 @ 3:29 pm