Comments on: Eavesdropping on a phone conference http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/ Mon, 12 May 2008 12:16:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Michael Hureaux Perez http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29491 Michael Hureaux Perez Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:20:43 +0000 http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29491 The struggle to "pressure" the "democrats" also amazes me because none of the people who believe they are going to do so take any cognizance of the actual transformations that have gone on within the body of that organization itself, the different factions of the ruling class that it is composed of, etc. Neither the "Democrats" or the "Republicans" are at all the same organizations they were even when I was a body, stuffing envelopes for the North Star Borough Democrats in Alaska in the early 1970s. I doubt seriously people like Frank Church or Mike Gravel would find much support in the Democratic party of now, and forget Republicans like Edward Brooke, Hugh Scott, or Jacob Javits. Contrast the sensibilities of a George Romney to his son Mitt, and you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm not saying they're not all boojwah politicians, mind you. But the layers of cynicism that have grown in both parties to me are symptomatic of the overwhelming bankruptcy of late capitalism, which has been greatly accelerated since the Reaganoid era began. So the idea of taking over either party, as Pieface Benjamin and others believe they will do, puts me in mind of nothing so much as Malcolm's apt phrase that "entering American society is like trying to get yourself integrated into a burning house". The struggle to “pressure” the “democrats” also amazes me because none of the people who believe they are going to do so take any cognizance of the actual transformations that have gone on within the body of that organization itself, the different factions of the ruling class that it is composed of, etc. Neither the “Democrats” or the “Republicans” are at all the same organizations they were even when I was a body, stuffing envelopes for the North Star Borough Democrats in Alaska in the early 1970s. I doubt seriously people like Frank Church or Mike Gravel would find much support in the Democratic party of now, and forget Republicans like Edward Brooke, Hugh Scott, or Jacob Javits. Contrast the sensibilities of a George Romney to his son Mitt, and you’ll see what I’m talking about. I’m not saying they’re not all boojwah politicians, mind you. But the layers of cynicism that have grown in both parties to me are symptomatic of the overwhelming bankruptcy of late capitalism, which has been greatly accelerated since the Reaganoid era began. So the idea of taking over either party, as Pieface Benjamin and others believe they will do, puts me in mind of nothing so much as Malcolm’s apt phrase that “entering American society is like trying to get yourself integrated into a burning house”.

]]> By: Plato's cave http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29453 Plato's cave Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:39:46 +0000 http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29453 Lynn Woolsey is my congressperson. I used to think she was well-intentioned, though not bright; now I think she has a grandiose self-image, and not bright. She refers to herself, Maxine Waters and Barbara Lee as "The Triad" - in image, like the "Four Horseman" of football, she apparently believes will strike fear into opponents' hearts. I heard today that Obama said in a speech "you will not attack Iran without Congressional approval." It made my heart flutter. Lynn Woolsey is my congressperson. I used to think she was well-intentioned, though not bright; now I think she has a grandiose self-image, and not bright. She refers to herself, Maxine Waters and Barbara Lee as “The Triad” - in image, like the “Four Horseman” of football, she apparently believes will strike fear into opponents’ hearts.

I heard today that Obama said in a speech “you will not attack Iran without Congressional approval.” It made my heart flutter.

]]> By: Politics in the Zeros » Sept. 15 March on D.C. this Saturday http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29452 Politics in the Zeros » Sept. 15 March on D.C. this Saturday Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:19:49 +0000 http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29452 [...] family members, anti-war, student and community leaders! In the 1960s and 70s, the antiwar movement had no interest in cajoling Democratic Party “doves”. It saw its job as raising hell in the streets to the point where both parties [...] [...] family members, anti-war, student and community leaders! In the 1960s and 70s, the antiwar movement had no interest in cajoling Democratic Party “doves”. It saw its job as raising hell in the streets to the point where both parties [...]

]]> By: The SmackDog Chronicles » Blog Archive » The Hollow Center of Liberal Activism In The US (Or, Why The Dimocrats Will NEVER Beat Bush) http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29359 The SmackDog Chronicles » Blog Archive » The Hollow Center of Liberal Activism In The US (Or, Why The Dimocrats Will NEVER Beat Bush) Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:38:20 +0000 http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29359 [...] more grounded sense of the truth.  Old school Marxist Louis Proyect uses his regular blog to dissect Lerner’s nonsense and the Dimocrats’ fallacy: This paints a dreary picture, doesn’t it? The blame keeps [...] [...] more grounded sense of the truth.  Old school Marxist Louis Proyect uses his regular blog to dissect Lerner’s nonsense and the Dimocrats’ fallacy: This paints a dreary picture, doesn’t it? The blame keeps [...]

]]> By: Binh http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29357 Binh Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:11:40 +0000 http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29357 The height of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again expecting different results every single time. Welcome to the world of CodePink, UFPJ, and Rollover.org. The height of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over again expecting different results every single time.

Welcome to the world of CodePink, UFPJ, and Rollover.org.

]]> By: Doug Henwood Talks » Blog Archive » Michael Lerner tattles: the state of the antiwar movement http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29356 Doug Henwood Talks » Blog Archive » Michael Lerner tattles: the state of the antiwar movement Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:09:14 +0000 http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/#comment-29356 [...] to Lou Proyect for pointing this out. His comments are at http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/. The original transcript is at [...] [...] to Lou Proyect for pointing this out. His comments are at http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/eavesdropping-on-a-phone-conference/. The original transcript is at [...]

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