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		<title>By: Erik Olin Wright&#8217;s &#8220;Envisioning Real Utopias&#8221; &#171; Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Olin Wright&#8217;s &#8220;Envisioning Real Utopias&#8221; &#171; Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I can&#8217;t say that I am one of Bruce Ackerman&#8217;s fans. After he and Todd Gitlin drafted an idiotic document titled &#8220;We Answer to the Name of Liberals&#8221; that &#8220;supported the use of American force, together with our allies, in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan,&#8221; I cast him into the lower depths of liberal hell along with the late Arthur Schlesinger Jr. and Albert Shanker. My response to the Gitlin-Ackerman article is here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I can&#8217;t say that I am one of Bruce Ackerman&#8217;s fans. After he and Todd Gitlin drafted an idiotic document titled &#8220;We Answer to the Name of Liberals&#8221; that &#8220;supported the use of American force, together with our allies, in Bosnia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan,&#8221; I cast him into the lower depths of liberal hell along with the late Arthur Schlesinger Jr. and Albert Shanker. My response to the Gitlin-Ackerman article is here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eugene</title>
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		<dc:creator>eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 04:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott McLemee is a pretty regular poster over there. I met him &#38; he's definitely not a laptop bombardier or liberal professoriat type :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott McLemee is a pretty regular poster over there. I met him &amp; he&#8217;s definitely not a laptop bombardier or liberal professoriat type <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Lyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>``Since she teaches logic, students might be well advised to think twice before enrolling in her class unless they have a taste for sophistry.''

If she teaches symbolic/mathematical logic, her skill at that and her teaching of that need have little relation to good informal reasoning in political matters. Also, even in the latter she may reason well, but from bad premises to bad conclusions. Or, at any rate, premises which you (and probably I) would to exception to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Since she teaches logic, students might be well advised to think twice before enrolling in her class unless they have a taste for sophistry.&#8221;</p>
<p>If she teaches symbolic/mathematical logic, her skill at that and her teaching of that need have little relation to good informal reasoning in political matters. Also, even in the latter she may reason well, but from bad premises to bad conclusions. Or, at any rate, premises which you (and probably I) would to exception to.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Ash</title>
		<link>http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/euston-lite/#comment-2825</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I'd recommend anyone interested look up what happened in Yugoslavia themselves rather than taking Mr. Proyect's assertions at face value... they may find Milošević was not 'only as bad as Bush' (though to be fair I'm guessing Mr. Proyect considers Bush to be worse than a truly rational look would merit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I&#8217;d recommend anyone interested look up what happened in Yugoslavia themselves rather than taking Mr. Proyect&#8217;s assertions at face value&#8230; they may find Milošević was not &#8216;only as bad as Bush&#8217; (though to be fair I&#8217;m guessing Mr. Proyect considers Bush to be worse than a truly rational look would merit).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hureaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hureaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice stuff.  I am sick to death of these people, who talk a wild game, and then expect us to roll over for bullshit lite. Out here in the great "progressive" mecca of Seattle, Washington, we're getting a steady dose of union bureaucratese in support of Maria Cantwell, the Patriot Act apologist and defender of the current atrocities in Iraq.  And when an earnest call for endorsement was made on the floor of the union's representative assembly two weeks ago, we got in response the same old song in sad refrain: "The race is so close, we can't afford to offer any support to a third party".  I've been hearing this from the left for oh, close to thirty years now. 

The most interesting thing about the person who made this argument is that, less than half an hour before, he had called for a union vote that would prevent "unsigned" articles from being distributed in the rep assembly.  Never mind that half of what appears in the union newsletter every month is unsigned. Obviously the target is the newsletter that opposition within the union is trying to generate.

Patriotism may be the last refuge of a scoundrel, but cowardice or craven behavior must be the penultimate acts at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice stuff.  I am sick to death of these people, who talk a wild game, and then expect us to roll over for bullshit lite. Out here in the great &#8220;progressive&#8221; mecca of Seattle, Washington, we&#8217;re getting a steady dose of union bureaucratese in support of Maria Cantwell, the Patriot Act apologist and defender of the current atrocities in Iraq.  And when an earnest call for endorsement was made on the floor of the union&#8217;s representative assembly two weeks ago, we got in response the same old song in sad refrain: &#8220;The race is so close, we can&#8217;t afford to offer any support to a third party&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve been hearing this from the left for oh, close to thirty years now. </p>
<p>The most interesting thing about the person who made this argument is that, less than half an hour before, he had called for a union vote that would prevent &#8220;unsigned&#8221; articles from being distributed in the rep assembly.  Never mind that half of what appears in the union newsletter every month is unsigned. Obviously the target is the newsletter that opposition within the union is trying to generate.</p>
<p>Patriotism may be the last refuge of a scoundrel, but cowardice or craven behavior must be the penultimate acts at least.</p>
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		<title>By: nihil novum sub solem &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Euston Lite</title>
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		<dc:creator>nihil novum sub solem &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Euston Lite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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